impossible white spot

[sarahw20000]

Hi i know white spot has been covered many times but in this case it's just not normal

When i first got ziggy he was in a vase for about a week without a light and i kept checking him but it wasn't until last week that i definitly noticed a few spots on his fins so i started treating him with interpet white spot treatment.

I did all the usual stuff of turning the temp up to 28, putting a bit of aqualibrium salt in but after a week and the recommended dose they still hadn't gone.

I thought it might be due to the lack of circulation because there isn't a filter so i moved him to my cycled hospital tank which has a light.

When i turned the light on i saw that he was COVERED in spots!

I again turned up the temp to 28, put some salt in and started using 'King British white spot WS8'
but it's been a week and the little buggers won't drop off!

Theres no way the treatment can work unless they drop off and he's started rejecting food now, is there anything else i can do to get them off?

 

[Bloo]

Well are you 100% sure it's whitespot ? and not possibly velvet or something else ?
I've used Interpet no. 6 before and always found treatment to be quick and effective.

 

[sarahw20000]

What's velvet like> I've never had any experience of that before?

I've dealt with white spot before and thats what it looks like but i couldn't be sure coz i'm not that experienced yet

 

[sarahw20000]

No, just done a search on velvet and it's not a gold or white dusting, it's definite individual white spots.

 

[nashnut]

I've had very good results treating Ick with just raising the temperature to 86, adding aquarium salt and aquasol. After a day or so, you could actually see them dropping off the fish. The temperature and treatment continued about 10 days and the ick never returned. I had four fish with it at the time. Haven't had a problem since and that was over a year ago.

 

[sarahw20000]

Thats the thing, i've treated it before and it's been fine, i'm just wondering if i've forgotten something (like removing carbon, but i've got an UGF so it can't be that)?

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Ick/whitespot can take 2 weeks to rid of the spots and you will need to keep treating the fish for another 2 weeks after the spots are gone because the fish will still have the desease but the desease itself only shows the spots at one stage in its cycle.
Whitespot takes a while to treat and i would definatly continue treating the fish with what you are treating it with as you are only half way through ridding the desease completely at best.
The meds will only start to work after the desease has passed the physical white spot stage as during this stage it is imune to all meds and this why you need to raise the temp as raising the temp helps speed up this stage so meds can work faster, 28/30degrees is a good temp for speeding the stage up.

 

[sarahw20000]

I've had the temp between 28 and 30 for the whole time i've been treating him (2weeks) which is why i was a bit confused about the spots not having dropped off yet, there sems to be more if anything!

 

[Bloo]

make sure your meds is not old or have somehow perhaps "heated" and is no longer effetive.
Buy a new bottle / different brand and try that. But do a water change first and run a carbon pad or some carbon in the filter to remove all existing meds - it's never a good idea to use a combo of 2 or more at any one time.

 

[sarahw20000]

Ok thanks i'll try that, i just feel so sorry for the poor little guy coz since i've had him he's not had much fun

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

(nevermind ) )

 

[Bloo]

um tokis - I did *not* say to mix the two together. Please re-read my above post carefully
Yes it can take a few weeks to work, but old or ineffective meds simply won't work.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Whoops sorry i missed that, im blind as a bat, but yeah anyways same thing .

 

[Alix]

hope your fish gets well soon. i let a friend watch a my fish while i was gone one time an i come back to have a dead community tank an the rest infested with ick!!! he said he didnt know what to do an he tried calling me

 

[Joby]

Try giving him a salt bath. I had ick once in my female betta community and used interpet whitespot treatment, but couldn't add salt as I had cories in there. So I took the girls out individually and gave them a salt bath, the results were amazing and the whitespot went in days!

Hope you get rid of it soon