ick

[PrObLeM_ChIlD]

What does ick look like i think my neons might have it, but i haven't had any experience with it.. my neons are loosing there color in the tail, 1/2 of them are and they have spots that the color is actually gone from or so it seems.. then my plattie has white spots of all over her, but she has since she became mature, i have raised her since she was just a babe.. and i don't know if it is just her coloring or if there is something wrong.. help!

 

[smb]

Ich looks like you sprinkle salt on the fish. It's usually seen first on the fins and tail then a couple days later as it progresses is seen on the body.

 

[PrObLeM_ChIlD]

like i sprincked salt on the fish.. so does the ick buldge out?

 

[smb]

Yea a little bit.

I would go to the lfs and get some nox-ich,aquarisol or whatever is available in your area. First do a water change and then add it per directions. If it's been more than a few days since you've noticed it, I would bump the temp up to 82F also as this will speed the cycle up. Make sure to take any carbon out and med for about 2 weeks.

Make sure anything you use is ok for your fish. I can't say what's good for platies as I know nothing about them.

 

[PrObLeM_ChIlD]

should i put all the questionable fish in a diferent tank and just medicate them or can the whole tank be medicated

 

[Kossy]

Firstly follow my sig for ich info,...

Now you should immediately seperate the sick fish into a hospital tank. Now medicate that tank...however ich is a parasite that could still be present in your community tank pay close attention to the community tank. Its not deadly if treated early. If spots appear on the healthy fish in your community tank then treat the whole tank.

 

[Inchworm]

PrObLeM ChIlD,

Ich is a parasitic infestation so I would treat the entire tank to insure that it does not spread. If you remove the ones with obvious symptoms and treat them and the problem remains in the tank, you risk reinfecting them when you put them back in.

Often the first sign of the fish getting ich will be rubbing against the gravel or decorations in the tank. This is because the parasite is developing under the scales of the fish and is not yet visable. It is possible to have the problem in different stages of development from one fish to another in the same tank.

I suggest you raise the temperature to 80-82 degrees and put one rounded tablespoon of aquarium salt per 5 gals. of water. At the same time, use a commercial medication. And it is important to take the charcoal out of the filter until you have finished the treatment.

That is how I would treat ich. But now I want to question the diagnosis. You said the the fish with the white spots had these spots since she has been mature. How long has that been? Has the problem been getting worse or staying the same? If it is ich, I think you would see the problem getting worse. And about the neons; you described them as losing color. Are they fading or actually getting spots on them?

My concern is not so much that you treat them for ick if they don't have it, but rather that you might waste time and not treat them for something that they do have.

The following is a link to a description of the life cycle of ich. There are descriptions of other fish diseases at this site, too. I hope it is helpful to you.
http/homepages.tesco.net/~davyreynolds/f...hhealth/ich.htm

 

[PrObLeM_ChIlD]

the neons are loosing color and turning really fading in some spotds more then others... i dunno what it is really....

 

[Assuluto]

The problems with the neons could be Neon Tetra disease because of the fading colours but dont count me on that

 

[njparton]

...just come through a bout of ich. I used Intrepet's remedy which id the trick in the end. Removed carbon from my filter but forgot to remove the bag of green-X which I think was removing the treatment from the water through ion exchange.

Gone within a week now although I'm still going to dose at 1/2 then 1/4 rate for a month to be sure....

 

[smb]

The problems with the neons could be Neon Tetra disease because of the fading colours but dont count me on that

You sound like you might be right.

the neons are loosing color and turning really fading in some spotds more then others... i dunno what it is really....

This definately sounds like Neon Tetra disease. It's named that because it was first seen in neons but it can afflict other species as well. There is no cure for it.

As a precaution, I would take the fish that have it out and quarantine them so it doesn't spread to the other fish. A couple other symptoms are swimming around all the time and having difficulty swimming, bloating, fin rot and the spines become curved along with the most obvious which is a loss of coloring. Keep in the hospital tank for at least 2-3 weeks and keep an eye on them. I'm not saying this is what it is but it could be.

If you do come to the conclusion that this is what it is, since there is no cure for it, euthanizing would be the only thing to do. Just make sure you know for sure that's what it is you don't want to do that if it's something else tha can be cured.



I was thrown off by you asking what ich was and never even thought of it until Assoluto mentioned it and I saw your post I quoted here.

 

[PrObLeM_ChIlD]

aww

 

[Inchworm]

PrObLeM ChIlD

I hate to say this, but I think it is neon disease, too. There is, however a disease called false neon disease. You might want to check it out too.

Something just didn't sound right when I posted here last night, so today I started doing some research. When I came back here carrying this link for you I found that others had already come to your aid. Isn't it great to belong to this forum? Everyone who has posted on this has your fish in their thoughts and wishes you well.

You will want to be sure before you do anything so check out this link first:

http/www.notcatfish.com/health/neon_disease.htm