Ich and temperature changes

[Neonharlequin]

I have noticed that one of my dwarf gourami has ich, ive read about temperature changes, increasing oxygen and using aquatic salt.
I have searched thoroughly online and cannot find an answer so i decided to try here
I have;
4 dwarf gourami
3 harlequin
8 phantom
3 otocinclus
3 black neon tetra
6 rainbow neon tetra
And a Ruby shark
Can they all withstand a gradual temperature increase to 32 degrees celsius?
I have already turned the airflow up on the airstone and i plan to do a water change tomorrow.

 

[AmyKieran]

I have noticed that one of my dwarf gourami has ich, ive read about temperature changes, increasing oxygen and using aquatic salt.
I have searched thoroughly online and cannot find an answer so i decided to try here
I have;
4 dwarf gourami
3 harlequin
8 phantom
3 otocinclus
3 black neon tetra
6 rainbow neon tetra
And a Ruby shark
Can they all withstand a gradual temperature increase to 32 degrees celsius?
I have already turned the airflow up on the airstone and i plan to do a water change tomorrow.

Just increase til 30 degrees Celsius and don’t use salt

 

[Slaphppy7]

Welcome to TFF

How long has the tank been set up, and what size is it?

 

[JCW_1]

Just increase til 30 degrees Celsius and don’t use salt

Hi AmyKieran,

I am new to fishleeping and prepared a list of solutions in case i get issues such as ich. My understanding is salt is best for ich but you state not to use salt. Can I ask why?

The info i sourced says salt works better than medicine and that it will get rid of ich before it could harm your fish.

 

[Byron]

It is true that salt is a safer treatment than any so-called medicine provided the issue is best handled by using salt. Very few fish will be harmed by treatment salt whereas pretty much all fish are affected by medicines in the water so these should never be used unless they are the best option for the specific problem. Having said that, there is seldom any reason to use salt (or anything else) for ich. Increasing the temperature to 30C/86F will kill the ich parasite. And unless the fish are cold water (none mentioned here are) heat is safe. Keep it at 30C/86F for two weeks, with good surface disturbance. Vacuum the substrate well at water changes.

Sometimes a couple of the parasites seem to be able to get through the heat, but that doesn't matter. Ich will not break out unless the fish are severely stressed. It may be present, and there is a wide acceptance that it is in most of our tanks, but fish can deal with this (if they couldn't, there would be no fish left in nature by now). Just keep them well cared for, avoiding stress. About 90% of all fish diseases are directly brought on by stress.

In general terms, it is always better to not add any substances to an aquarium unless again it is absolutely the best remedy for "x" problem. Substances dissolved in the water can and do enter the fish via osmosis and this can cause trouble leading to further stress and weakness in the fish, at the very least.

 

[Neonharlequin]

Welcome to TFF

How long has the tank been set up, and what size is it?

The tank has been set up for around 3 months and it is 130litres

 

[Neonharlequin]

It is true that salt is a safer treatment than any so-called medicine provided the issue is best handled by using salt. Very few fish will be harmed by treatment salt whereas pretty much all fish are affected by medicines in the water so these should never be used unless they are the best option for the specific problem. Having said that, there is seldom any reason to use salt (or anything else) for ich. Increasing the temperature to 30C/86F will kill the ich parasite. And unless the fish are cold water (none mentioned here are) heat is safe. Keep it at 30C/86F for two weeks, with good surface disturbance. Vacuum the substrate well at water changes.

Sometimes a couple of the parasites seem to be able to get through the heat, but that doesn't matter. Ich will not break out unless the fish are severely stressed. It may be present, and there is a wide acceptance that it is in most of our tanks, but fish can deal with this (if they couldn't, there would be no fish left in nature by now). Just keep them well cared for, avoiding stress. About 90% of all fish diseases are directly brought on by stress.

In general terms, it is always better to not add any substances to an aquarium unless again it is absolutely the best remedy for "x" problem. Substances dissolved in the water can and do enter the fish via osmosis and this can cause trouble leading to further stress and weakness in the fish, at the very least.

Brilliant thank you for all the information

 

[DoubleDutch]

Quite a stocking for a 130 litre.