I Gotta Silk Plant

[K3lly]

 

[loraxchick]

He doesn't need to endure it when you can get a cheap sponge filter.

you can MAKE a sponge filter for, like, LESS than 10 dollars!
and a heater is a must...they are tropical fish!

 

[riogal_11]

squiremaster - My only suggestion to you would be this: "If you want to continue posting on this forum you better go get a 5 gallon tank, filter, heater, and more than one silk plant. Otherwise, every thread you ever post will turn into this. People will link your previous threads that turned into a big bashing session, shoot you can ask a question on the cichlid forum and inevitably someone will find you and again start on about your betta tank. Shoot, go get a 2.5 gallon and people will say you need at least a 3. Get a 3 and you need a 5". BTW, I hope you read this in the way it is intended.

 

[Underwurlde]

Agree with everyone here. Get a filter. Get a heater. No one has said it but we're all thinking stop being dumb, lazy & tight.

Sure, Nelson Mandella survived 23 years in a South African Gaol. Bet he didn't like it though.

Go figure mate...

Andy

 

[riogal_11]

Agree with everyone here. Get a filter. Get a heater. No one has said it but we're all thinking stop being dumb, lazy & tight.Sure, Nelson Mandella survived 23 years in a South African Gaol. Bet he didn't like it though.
Go figure mate...

Andy

Actually I wasn't thinking that, so let's not make collective statements for the group. Especially calling people dumb.
and to the italicized - That might be a bit of an extreme comparison don't ya think.

Also, I don't know how many of you have dogs or cats here, but let me just throw that out there. Dogs and cats are MUCH bigger than a betta. How many people keep these animals in crates when they are away, kennels, dog houses, heck even our own houses..... Do you think these dogs would enjoy a larger space, sure they would. Are you willing to buy a new house so your dog has a bigger yard to play in. Are you willing to give up your dog because someone else thinks he's not happy or not taken care of, even when you know he is..... and I know what some people will reply to with this.

First off I know it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get a 5 gallon tank, however, around here they are at least $35.00 bare. Plus heater and filter, another $20.00 or so. So we are not just talking about pocket change.
Obviously the OP got this betta without realizing it might enjoy a larger home. Should he now get rid of him just because some people think it's not adequate? I don't think so.

Also, someone will point out that dogs are domesticated. This doesn't stand either because almost all of the fish we buy have NEVER I repeat NEVER have been in the rice fields in Thailand. Alll many of them know is half-gallon to gallon mason jars, cups in the lfs, etc. These bettas are not used to hundreds of miles swimming area. My clown fish was not bred in the wild and therefore does not think he is getting the short end of the stick living in a 75 gallon.
Do I think a 1/2 gallon tank is ideal, no, but is any fish in ANY tank ideal, I say NO to that also.

 

[Truck]

so youre telling me a plastic storage box, a home made filter, and then a heater is going to cost $50? i could do all this on $25

 

[riogal_11]

I'm talking about regular tanks. I'm not real keen on using storage bins, because they look like crap, but I suppose he could use that if he wanted. Still, a storage bin would be 5 or so bucks, I can't even get a heater around here for less than $20.00, and a homemade filter would be about $10.00.
Either way the price wasn't the focus of my post, the point is, picking some arbitrary number that we as humans think would be ideal is BS in my opinion. The very hobby of keeping fish is considered cruel by some, but I can't imagine those of us that do keep them not defending it.
Bottom line is, you picked one quote out of my entire post to try and best suit your argument. The reality of it is, who are any of us to judge how much money the OP has to buy these "required" items. Maybe he intended to get a bigger tank, but can't afford it yet. That one silk plant couldn't have cost more than a couple bucks. I'm just saying, none of us really have the right to assume that he could do better.

 

[LionMom]

Maybe the OP can keep an eye out for a used set-up on the cheap?

Having said that, though, I have to admit his betta looks well cared for, IMO.

 

[squiremaster]

How often do you commit to water changes? And how much water is changed every time? With a tank that size your looking at well over 2 complete tank volumes a week, which can be stressful for the fish.

Even if you can't get a filter immediatly, add a few live plants, they should be able to handle a minute amount of waste but not all of it. Also, I know that places like walmart and Ebay sell 7.5watt heaters which should be ok for that tank size, Ideally though a small filter a heater like a mentioned [Or better] and a 2.5-3 gallon at least [Ideally 5Gal] will be required.

The fish may be cheap, but the initial costs aren't. He'll be alot happier in something more suiting and appropriate, and, He can take the Silk plant with him! =D

once a week taking a quarter of his water out

 

[Nick16]

a quarter of his water is like taking 1L out! i would be taking 2/3rds out every day. this is so cruel. its like putting you in a room 1m by 1m and making you survive for a year. no exercise, only food you get is on a plate on the floor and you can barely bend down to eat it. oh and adding some mustard gas to poison you a bit, like the ammonia is doing to your fish.

 

[squiremaster]

Agree with everyone here. Get a filter. Get a heater. No one has said it but we're all thinking stop being dumb, lazy & tight.

Sure, Nelson Mandella survived 23 years in a South African Gaol. Bet he didn't like it though.

Go figure mate...

Andy

who's Nelson Mandella

 

[Nick16]

i take it you are quite young?

he was an anti apartheid activist (protesting against the separation of blacks and whites) The South African courts convicted him on charges of sabotage as well as other crimes committed while he led the movement against the separation of blacks and whites. he spent 27 years in a prison (robben island? am i right here?)

im only 16 andi know some history.

 

[Kizz]

hate to butt in but did any of you check this dudes profile.....He's 13 !

Rather than flame why don't we all help mould a young mind to appreciate and care for his fish properly

Oh andLovely colour to your betta !

 

[nosoup4you]

You have Craigslist in Canada...I'll bet you could find a primo tank with all of the equipment for little to nothing.

http/geo.craigslist.org/iso/ca

 

[nitro7]

hate to butt in but did any of you check this dudes profile.....He's 13 !

Rather than flame why don't we all help mould a young mind to appreciate and care for his fish properly

Oh andLovely colour to your betta !

well well you lot realy hammerd that young one, now didnt you.
as kizz said above i have to agree,i havent been keeping fish that long so ive made some mistakes,i think we all have.
so come guys and girls go easy on the young ones,they have to learn so where so why not here.
best to set them in the right direction,than scare them off

eric