I Am After Some Re-assurance

Terriann

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Hello, here is my story

I bought 2 polka dot loaches and a female fighter on Saturday. The fighter didn't seem right when put her in, she was very unsociable and not particularly agile. She died Monday morning, when I came home from work I noticed that my chocolate gourami had large white patch on its side, not raised, didn't look like slime, no bumps. The fish died within hours, I couldn't see any more of this white patch on any more fish, until an hour later, I saw it on another gourami, which died by morning. Again no other fish had symptons I got home today, I have lost my male fighter and another gourami and my 3 gouramies do not look like they have long. To boot my new polka dot loaches have white spot. :sad:

I have rushed down to my lfs today and they have given me me protozin which covers Ich, Velvet, Costiasis, trichodiniasis, fungus, neon tentra disease, is this the right thing to do? They are normally very good but after my current trouble, I need to check. They have won awards and all sorts.

I don't understand, I regularly gravel vac, change 30% water fortnightly, feed a mixture of brine shrim, blood worm, dried foods, algae wafers and have live plants, bog wood and a bublber. My tank isn't over stocked, in fact far from and my water is always at a very stable and respectable nitrites 0, ammonia 0, nitrates 10 at 27degrees. Why do I get so much disease in my tank, where am I going wrong? :angry:
 
Sounds like the new fish fetched something into the tank.
The patches on the side of the fish are they fluffy looking.
How long did you climatise the new fish for, did you match temp and ph.
 
Sounds like the new fish fetched something into the tank.
The patches on the side of the fish are they fluffy looking.
How long did you climatise the new fish for, did you match temp and ph.

Hi, no they are not fluffy looking, I have managed to have a proper look at one that only has slight marks and it looks like it is very slightly raised. Only one of the gouramies are still alive, it is killing them so fast! They don't gasp for air, they just go lathargic and die.

I really don't want to loose any more!

I float the bag for 15 minutes, add a cup of water, wait 10 minutes add 2 one more cup of water and 10 minutes later I let them swim out.

I have had a problem with gill flukes, which I managed to get sorted about a 10 days ago (due to some sailfins I put in from a different lfs), I don't know if it could be secondary to that.
 
Cup of water to the bag is to much you have to climatise them very slowly adding only abit of water every 15 minutess.
Always check the ph of the lfs to your tank ph.
Do the patches look bleached out.
Gill flukes do cause bacterial infections, that's why its best to use a bacterial med after the gill fluke treatment has finished.
Gill flukes can be hard to cure.
I wouldn't of bought anymore new fish for a least a month till you can got things under control again.
 
Hi Terriann :)

Please get yourself a quarantine tank to house your new fish, at least until you can be sure they are healthy. It's well worth the few dollar it will cost. You can run an extra box filter in your tank and transfer it to the quarantine tank as needed for an instantly cycled tank.

I float the bag for 15 minutes, add a cup of water, wait 10 minutes add 2 one more cup of water and 10 minutes later I let them swim out.

Do you let the water from the bag enter your tank? If so, that could be part of your problem too. It's always best to net the fish out rather than tipping up the bag so they can swim out.
 
Thank you, I do have a quarantine tank, but it is very small, it wouldn't have been able to cater for the loaches and hasn't yet been cycled (I only bought it a week ago), my partner wont let me have a larger one, I had to beg for months for him to let me have a tank at all and the quarintine tank had to fit in the shelf of my current tank or I couldn't have one.

I had never had gill flukes in my tank before, so I didn't know they could cause so many problems! I have definately learnt the hard way and unfortunately at the expense of my fishies if its what caused it.

Bearing in mind that I have already added protozin to my tank, and that I have both whitespot and possible bacterial infection (if its not some kind of fungus/velvet) can anyone please give me a course of action?

Thank you

Terriann
 
What med did you use for the gills flukes.
Some flukes are egg layers you have to treat up to four weeks.
Flukes have a nasty bacteria in there hooks so when they pierce the skin the bacteria enters the fish blood stream.
Fish can also get eye flukes and skin flukes.

Bleached out patches on the fish body can be parasite to bacterial, its hard to say with all the parasites. whitespot, and gill flukes.
For now carry on with the whitespot med, when finished the course and the whitespot gone, I would add a bacterial med to the tank.
 
I used sterazin and completed the course then waited a week and a half (if not a big longer - and I now know I should have waited longer) before adding new fish.

Thank you, I will carry on with the protozin for the 6 day course, do another water change a couple of day later and then use a solution for bacterial infection, is there one at all you would recommend please - you obviously know your stuff about fish and I really appreciate your help.
 
Are the gills still red and inflamed.
Anti internal bacteria med by interpet.
Are bacterial meds in the uk are not that strong so you have to catch things early for them to be affective against bacteria infections.
Keep an eye on the gills as gill flukes are very hard to get rid of without using powerful meds.

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The only sign I ever had of gill flukes was the flicking, they killed my black ghost and when he was towards the end of his life, he gasped for air at the top of the tank, I went to my lfs and they told me it was gill flukes. My krib is now flicking and his gills do seem red - although I have never really checked them to know if they are any more red than normal but I am also aware that it could be whitespot, but I can't see any spots on her.

I must admit, I never thought fish keeping could be this hard! I just want a nice looking tank with lots of happy healthy fishes which don't cost me a fortune to medicate.
 
Gill flukes signs are as follow.
Inflamed red gills that can look like they are bleeding, or pale with excess mucas on them.
Some flukes can make fish skinny.
Flicking and rubbing against objects in the tank.
Gasping at the top of the tank or laboured breathing.
Sores on the body of the fish..
Spitting food out can be a sign of gill flukes.
 

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