I dont have any experience with Red Devil's specifically. I really think they are beautiful fish and I would love to add one to my community. I tried once unsuccessfully to add a smaller RD and had to remove him almost immidiatly to avoid injury as it was plainly obvious he would have been injured bad had I not taken him out. Anyway I took him back to the LFS and Im wondering if I were able to find a large RD is there an adjustment period where they are timid when 1st introduced into a new environment because If I am to find a large one he will have to probably demonstraight that he is not to be picked on early.
How Well Can A Good Sized Red Devil Defend Itself?
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fuzz16
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most likely the question once hes grown up and become accumstomed to the tank..is what wont this fish kill.
Actually no, quite the opposite actually. He would not be the most agressive breed in the community. Probably even as a full grown adult. But my original question still stands to anyone experienced with RD's.
What other fish do you have?
IME, and from friends that have had them, they are very good at defending themselves against any other cichlids close to their size. Most labiatus have a psycho stage and once they hit that they can sometimes go on a killing rampage. Some others don't get pshycho and can live well in large aquariums with other aggressive cichlids and only fight to defend their territory and are otherwise ok.
Edit: As far as if you can get one that will instantly fight when you put him in, I don't know if you'll have much luck with that with any cichlid. Being new to a tank, he doesn't have anything to fight for ie. territory so they will probably not even bother and hide in the corners.
IME, and from friends that have had them, they are very good at defending themselves against any other cichlids close to their size. Most labiatus have a psycho stage and once they hit that they can sometimes go on a killing rampage. Some others don't get pshycho and can live well in large aquariums with other aggressive cichlids and only fight to defend their territory and are otherwise ok.
Edit: As far as if you can get one that will instantly fight when you put him in, I don't know if you'll have much luck with that with any cichlid. Being new to a tank, he doesn't have anything to fight for ie. territory so they will probably not even bother and hide in the corners.
Thank you very much, good advice, that helps alot. I think I will try and find a larger RD and put him in when I have a day off so I can keep a very close watch on him. If I can find one that looks like he could make it through the 1st couple of days I think Ill be in good shape. If not, at least Ill be home to pull him out before any damage is done. Thanx again!!!
vancouver
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How big is your tank, what other fish do you have, and how big are they?
Often introducing new cichlids can be difficult as the fish already in the tank have a pecking order established... new fish disrupt the pecking order and are sometimes killed.
Often introducing new cichlids can be difficult as the fish already in the tank have a pecking order established... new fish disrupt the pecking order and are sometimes killed.
Ill PM you with the answer to your question, there are a lot of judgemental people on these boards, I dont prefere to discuss what I keep in open forum.
LisaLQ
Fish Gatherer
What's the point in asking on an open forum if you're not even going to share the basic details? How on earth is someone supposed to give you a decent answer, if they dont know what the fish has to stick up to? 
cheesy feet
Fish Aficionado
Yeh,come on say what your set up is!?
demonmagus
spamming my way to the top...
PM me 
Nevergone815
Fish Herder
Yea PM e too. I'll try my best to help!
jayjay
The BE-Team Fighting For Betta Extermination
That is in my opinion, pathetic. Surely people are only saying what can/will go wrong and if you have ways around them I'm sure people will be more than willing to hear them. You can only get help, when people know the details though. So everytime you want help, it will be from a certain few through PM?
Your right, Id rather take the advice of a certain few who are knowledgable and open minded rather than the ignorant masses who would call my topic pathetic and most likely offer nothing but criticism rather than the guidence I seek. Jayjay Im sure you are a nice person but its opinions from people like you that I am not looking for nor interested in. Hence when I put up a topic such as this I prefere to do it my way. If you think its pathetic or you dont like my prefered method of communication, than dont post a reply. When a person wishes a certain level of privacy, is it too much to ask to respect that privacy? And if you cant respect it just ignore the topic? Im not looking for a dabate so I will not address this again. I dont wish to publically discuss my community at this time, please respect that and leave it alone.
jayjay
The BE-Team Fighting For Betta Extermination
So possibly a few, people who aren't so knowledgeable (not saying anyone involved with this person, isn't knowledgeable) over the whole forum?
'Tis a public forum, so if you wish to not take my advise, as you are not interested in my opinion, don't read my replies.
Personally, I feel, if you can not take criticism over the internet, then real life must be a big problem. There is constructive criticism which will help you if you take in on board. This is a problem in my opinion, when people only say nice things too protect someones feelings and not be seen as "flaming". The only way you will learn you are doing wrong, is if it goes wrong or someone tells you it will go wrong before it happens.
An example, someone posting a picture of dyed fish, in a hugely overstocked tank, which suffers from poor maintenance and with fish completely unsuited to live together. Then surely it would be right to criticize, no?
I'm fine with people doing things they shouldn't, if: they make sure everything they have can go together, they understand what can go wrong and have a backup plan for if those things go wrong, e.g. spare tanks.
People cannot offer guidance with out knowing at least some of the story.
'Tis a public forum, so if you wish to not take my advise, as you are not interested in my opinion, don't read my replies.
Personally, I feel, if you can not take criticism over the internet, then real life must be a big problem. There is constructive criticism which will help you if you take in on board. This is a problem in my opinion, when people only say nice things too protect someones feelings and not be seen as "flaming". The only way you will learn you are doing wrong, is if it goes wrong or someone tells you it will go wrong before it happens.
An example, someone posting a picture of dyed fish, in a hugely overstocked tank, which suffers from poor maintenance and with fish completely unsuited to live together. Then surely it would be right to criticize, no?
I'm fine with people doing things they shouldn't, if: they make sure everything they have can go together, they understand what can go wrong and have a backup plan for if those things go wrong, e.g. spare tanks.
People cannot offer guidance with out knowing at least some of the story.
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