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Ok, so i have been browsing and have come across about 15 posts in the first 3 pages asking the difference between male and female PK's, so i was wondering if any of the more experienced fish keepers could maybe post something to clear up the mist about it, because i'd like to get some females but am worried that i'll buy a male.

Thanks x
 
male and female pks are not too hard to distingish. a male pk and a female VT however can be very easily confused, particularl if the female VT is very young.
the fins are realy the best way to tell the pk sexes apart. the males anal fin is much longer at the baxk and wil have a very fine, sharp and often quite long, point to it. his tail will be slightly longer and have a wider spread on it, although you may only notice this when flaring. his colours are genraly more intense. his body will be altogether more muscular looking than that of a female.
NEVER make a finale judgement by the presence of an "egg spot"..NEVER! its a load of BULL that this mean 100% its female. young males, especialy young pks for some reason will often show a "flase ovipositor" which is just an extention of their anus. i think the reason for this is, as alot of young pk males are being sold as female, its not uncommon to see several in one tank, and the lower ranking males show an egg spot and stress bars to show submisiveness and also to diguise them selves as a female to avoid conflict with with the dominant male/s.

telling a young vt female from a young pk male can prove trickier, especialy if she flares alot. but agin her colours will be less intence, when she flare she wont have the big beard of a pk male, in good condition she will be fat and eggy. her anal fin will be very similar to a pks but a little longer and will usualy lack the defined point on a pk. her tail will be rounder and the outer rays on her tail will curve into each other, whereas on a pk they are straight.

hers a few pics, first is a pk male, then a pk female and then a flaring pic of a vt female for comparison

hope this helps
 

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omg omg omg.... i used the white spot test to see if big bertha was in fact a big bert.... i thought she was female and i brought her as female.... she looks or he looks very similar to the males and less similar to the females.. she/he has been occassionally fightin with the other females.. but fo the most part.. she/he has chilled in the cave in my tank and would ocassionally scare off any female who came near it.. im scared now that for so long my ive had a male living with 5 other females... geesh!!.. im gonna get a pic up as soon as possible.. if its a male im gonna feel so dumb 4 not seein it earlier...
 
Heres a video of "Big Bertha"... Who im being to think is a "Big Bert"....

All of my females seem to be gettin torn up and i occasionally see female against female.. i dont usually see bertha fightin with the other females.. and she has no damage to her/him....

Note the female activity and the damage to their tales.... the tank has been chaos in the last couple of days....

nevermind the noise of the tv and the noise of dmx when sumbody signed on to AIM.. lol..




Male or female??
Im starting to believe it's a male.... if so im going to be upset.. i have no place for him right now...
 
Looks like you've got ratty tails like us now :angry: apart from Bertha that is!!! Judging by her anal fin I would probably say male. She could be going for them at night when you don't see her. I know that having Storm in our tank made the other girls more tetchy with each other and now that she's out it's alot calmer.
 
geesh!!! now i gotta rename him from Big Bertha to Oops lol... Oh Boy.. i have to find somewhere for him now... and right now i dont have much of a extra space for him....
 
I would hang on until someone else confirms what I think.......I'd hate to have you try to sort out another place for him and then a more experienced person comes on a says she's a girlie :lol:
 
You could put her in a breeding net hanging in the tank until you know for sure. That's what we did and then we moved him into his own tank. He was quite happily making bubblenests while he was in the net too :D
 
I'd say to almost 100% certainty that Bertha is Bert. Between the Ventrical and anal fins and the hostility level in the tank, he's a juvy male. I'd say either the breeding net or just head out to the Dollar Store and see if you can pic up a 1 gallon clear plastic container for him, he'd be fine in there. Just be sure to keep up the water changes. :good:
 

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