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just because you have clown fish and an anemone does not mean the clown fish will take to it. also if you were to go this route then the first thing is to get an anemone that is doing very well in the tank first. many anemones take some time to find their place in the tank (they move to where they like) if you try to introduce clowns they may not even take to the anemone. if they do take the anemone and it is struggling because of tank conditions.. the clown will in turn effect the anemone basically it helps kill it. also there is no guarantee that they clowns will take to your toadstool leather as well.


green chromis are a great type of fish instead of damsels. they to can help "cure" the tank.

yellow tank..... if you are set on one.. find the healthiest, smallest fish possible.. but again not a good fish for your tank.

maybe take a look at this

4 green chromis
2 percula clowns
1 bi color angel or maybe a flame angel (only 1 type of angel though and the "dawrf" angels)
maybe sometime of gobies (fire-fish)
some type of wrasse.

just some thoughts
 
I like the green chromis Idea, but I want a few more clown fish and I dont like gobies.
I havn't got an appionion on the wrass though. I might need to see it in real life.
Thanks for your imput :)
 
We started out with a small Yellow Tang, Flame Angel, Lawnmower Blenny they are a crack up to watch, and one percula clown. in a 55 gallon. He never has gone to an anemone. All the anemone's that I have tried have been horrible disasters. Except for a flower anemone that we got put in one spot and it has never moved. I spend the first 2 hours after coming home from work digging an anemone out of one of my flow pumps. The tank looks horrible and I am cleaning up bits and pieces. we are now up to a 135, 55, and 44 gallon tanks and have no plans to add more fish will stick with corals.
 
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Mixing two sets of clowns might not be a good idea because you end up with the possibility of them fighting over what they host in


But earlier someone said not to add more than 2 clowns of the same kind. So when I see aguarium full of clowns, they had to make a compramise somewhere. So where?

I know several people that have more than 2 clowns of the same kind in their tank. If you introduce 3 percs, 1 will eventually become dominate and act as a swinger with the others. There is a possiblity of one dying, but I do not know of anybody having this happen. I would go ahead and add 3 percs and go from there. Keep a close eye on the tank and see what happens. If one is in danger, sell it, or put it in a hospital tank until you can find another home for it.

One Yellow tang should be fine. Although not the ideal tank size for one, (100 gallons is recomended), the fish will survive and more than likely live a happy life. If you notice any stress or lack of happiness from the fish... GET IT OUT OF THERE!


Most importantly... Monitor your tank and see what works for you. People on here make suggestions from experience and will likely save you from a lot of trouble if you listen to them. If you decide to not listen, make sure that you protect your fish and keep a very close eye on your tank. I know of some highly overstocked tanks that are successful... they have been tweeked over time.

Good luck!
 
OK well here goes my input :/

The mention of a powder blue worries me. These fish are very delicate and if the tank is too small (which this is) then it will get whitespot continuosly or even die from stress. They are also extremly aggressive so even if you were successful you would still have aggression problems with this fish as its territory in the wild is far larger than your tank.

Yellow tang.. ok I will say its possible to get this fish in but the tank is still unsuitable and the fish will be stressed as it grows. You must remember that 99% of tangs are highly territorial and will defend their tanks from anything they percieve asa threat. Small tank increase this stress and they will be very dominating.
A much better tang for a tank of your size is the Yellow eye Tang.... pictures dont do them justice as these fish are beatiful to watch. They are also excellant aglae removers.

Damsels...
Im afraid to say that i have yet to see a damsel that is friendly.. they have only various degrees of evil :-( If you want damsels then i alway suggest you keep 4 or 5 of these fish as they WILL fight and its better to have other fish that can fight with them.. having a community of damsels usually means they will bicker amongst themselves and leave other fish alone. of course this is risky cos if they all get along well then the other fish have 4 or 5 damsels in the tankto contend with :crazy:

Chromis are an excellant fish.. if you want another nice colourful shoaler then how about Anthias? they are a little more delicate than the chromis but they have lovely bright vibrant colours.

As for the clowns...
I would not mix the species but i see no reason why you cannot have 3 or 4 of the same species in the tank. I have seen tanks with 4 clowns in there. One will become dominant and the rest usually remain as males and non-fertile males. If you choose this route then i recomend the perc clowns as they are the least aggressive when compared to tomatoes or maroons etc.


Anenomes? DONT :no:
here are a few reasons.

Anenomes need perfect water conditions. This is something that people new to the hobby find difficult to keep stable enough and thus keep the anenome happy.

Lighting for anenome needs the best.. Halides are very important for anenomes as their primary source of energy is sunlight

If an anenome moves around the tank it means they are in search of better light or better water. this means all they come into contact with will get stung. Corals that cannot move out of its way are going to get severly damaged if an anenome passes by.

There is no gaurnetee that an anenome will accept or be accepted by clowns. Clowns can be very very choosy and they might not even accept the anenome.. unfortunately there is little to nothing you can do about this :/

Sadly, the sheer number of anenomes in the wild means they are being taken from the ocean to make money.. lots of money.. what many people dont know is that they have an extremly poor survival rate. about 1 anenome out of every 100 collected will survive long enough to reach the wholesalers. and probably 1 out of every 100 sold in your lfs will make it past the first 6 months in a persons tank. As you can see, this is an appawling survival rate and considering that these creatures can live for 100s.. even 1000s of years in the wild then we cannot truthfully say to anyone that we can keep anenomes sucesfully in tanks.
If you insist on an anemone then i urge you to give it the best chance for survival by learning more about the hobby first. allow the tank to fully mature, this takes about 12 months. During this time i would ask that you learn as much about their keeping as possible.

If you merely want the clowns to host something then i recomend the Sarcohyton leather mushroom. Its far less demanding on all aspects and is an easy beginner coral. Lighting doesnt have to be halides and they will live under far lower light conditions. water quality doesnt need perfection as these coral survie much better in higher nutrient water. These corals dont move around and lastly they dont sting and eat other fish/corals.

Just so you can see for yourself how easily a leather mushroom can be an effective host, here is a piccy of my old clowns thriving in the sarcophyton.
2clowns.jpg


and my maroon in the same coral (when the coral was in a different tank)
clown5.jpg


Hope this helps
 
Ok, so not the yellow tang. I also like the sailfin and the convict tang. both are community type fish.
 
you seem to like your tang but these fish simply will not fit in the tank you currently have :/

The yellow eye is about the best option for you and even this is extremly borderline.

Yellow eye/Kole tang
 
^But doesnt that also require a estasblished tank too? I dont wanna wait for my fish for a year before I can house tham......Anyways, so how would I get enough algea to support the fish, but not make my tank look like a plant shop?
 
someone told me that firefish like to school. not sure how many are considered a school, but i would think at least 3 or 4 if they truly are schooling fish. anyone know if this is true or not?

perhaps you could forego the tang(s) and consider just the clowns, perhaps a mated pair of whichever type you choose, plus maybe a royal gramma and possibly a goby or 2 like a yellow watchman goby.
 
veen said:
perhaps you could forego the tang(s) and consider just the clowns, perhaps a mated pair of whichever type you choose, plus maybe a royal gramma and possibly a goby or 2 like a yellow watchman goby.
You looking at my profile to name all my fish or something? ;)

I have a pair of clowns, a royal gramma, a pair of watchman gobies... and a six line wrasse ;) Yesterday I asked the guy at the LFS to get a purple firefish for me. :D
 
chkltcow said:
veen said:
perhaps you could forego the tang(s) and consider just the clowns, perhaps a mated pair of whichever type you choose, plus maybe a royal gramma and possibly a goby or 2 like a yellow watchman goby.
You looking at my profile to name all my fish or something? ;)

I have a pair of clowns, a royal gramma, a pair of watchman gobies... and a six line wrasse ;) Yesterday I asked the guy at the LFS to get a purple firefish for me. :D
oh, sorry, didn't read your profile :eek: yeah, the purple firefish are soo cool. and i've heard they don't hide as much as the regular orange firefish.

how are all your other fish doing?
 
They're all just fine. The clowns baffle me sometimes, because they'll get along just fine, and then one decides it's gonna chase the other one all over the tank. Then they'll stop for a while and play around... then the chasing begins again. The gobies are little piggies, the gramma is even worse, and the wrasse would eat more if his itty bitty mouth would allow it.

All in all I'd give them an "fat" on their health rating ;)
 
Ethos, I have been watching this thread and have noticed how everyone is trying to work with you.

It is not really my style to be a killjoy, but for a moment, that is what I am going to do.

75 Gallons is not large enough for a Tang.....period. Certainly not in a newbie tank.

Navarre put it well with the Damsels. There are degrees of evil... :lol:
I can tell you are going to be one of the hobbiests that push stocking levels to the limits. That is ok, there are many out there that do, but a Damsel of any kind in a fully stocked tank is asking for trouble.
I know a guy that has been trying to get a Yellowtail out of his reef now for 15 years!!! :eek:

There is a multitude of choices, and limited room, so you were wise to ask.

Get a harem of clowns, Percs, especially tank raised ones, are very docile.
A Flame Angel or a Coral Beauty.
Then look at Wrasses, Dottybacks, and gobies to round it out.

And don't forget the wide variety of inverts you will be able to keep. I have more fun shopping for them than anything!

Cheers, GL.
 
veen said:
someone told me that firefish like to school. not sure how many are considered a school, but i would think at least 3 or 4 if they truly are schooling fish. anyone know if this is true or not?
From liveaquaria.com...
It will rarely become aggressive towards other fish, but is territorial, and will fight with its own kind unless they are a mated pair.
 

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