How Awful!

[abzorbd]

How does tattooing the fish harm them? (besides the stress caused by the act itself)
I totally disagree with it regardless..was just curious
Personally I think it's totally creepy..especially if someone got me a fish that said 'I love you' on it!
Its kinda like the poor chicks that get dye injected into their eggs for Easter and come out rainbow colored..
I'll just keep getting tattoos on myself..only have 5 so far with plenty of naked skin left
..and dang it!.. where's the hot Asian guy..probably cropped outta the pic...jeeeez

I totally agree with you. I have nineteen and still have lots of naked skin too. lol
However, I cannot agree with you about the asian guy. LOL

 

[dzsigmond217]

Right! Kinda makes me wish some japanese guy would pluck me outta my pool and tattoo me for free..how hard do you think it would be to look like a fish...?!?!

Am still interested in exactly how the fish are harmed by this...?
There's a LFS that is selling tattooed fish and I'd love to give him an earful about it.
Ofcourse it would look and sound better if I had some facts other than I think it's dang cruel!

 

[Mikaila31]

Fish are dyed 4 different ways.
1. feeding them dyed food-not that common and only works on light colored fish
2. dyed baths- the fish are stripped of their slime coat, then put in a dyed bath, then put in a bath that irritates their skin to produce the slime coating again. Very painful, about 20% survive this method.
3. dye injection- the fish is injected many times with a needle to create strips or patterns. no doubt painful
4. Laser dyed- the fish is held down out of the water, and a low powered laser is used to first bleach the skin then color it with pigments. again painful, and to much exposer to the laser can cause blistering.

The fish in question (parrots), I feel have been dyed twice. Parrots are naturally a peachy color, not yellow. When you come across colored parrots most have been given dyed baths. They are then lasered to create the words. So say you start with 20 naturally colored parrots, they are bath dyed and you now have 4 left, they are then lasered and you most likely lose 1-2 to that. So in the end you are left with 2-3 fish that make it to the store and 17-18 that died. The fish don't stand much of a chance getting a good home either. And the dyes shorten the fish life span to about half its normal length. Also it could be worse.

So in the end a lot of fish died to give you that tank of dyed fish, which will die unnatural deaths. So really the best thing is to not buy anything from stores that sell dyed fish. Dyed fish are quite common in the US, parrots seem to get the worst of it. Complain to them and tell them you won't buy from them, they aren't psychic if you don't complain they won't know.

Links.
Why it's cruel to dye
Laser dyed
Death By Dyeing

 

[dzsigmond217]

I was shocked when I went to my mom & pop owned LFS and they had those genetically altered zebra danios.. You know the ones where the scientist mixed and spliced genes and dna from glowing coral and octopus to 'create' these glowing fish. What the heck people..why don't you find a cure for cancer if you have so much time on your hands and leave unnaturally forced gene alterations alone.

 

[KraKen]

First of all the scientists that made the glo-fish didn't set out to make a glowing zebra danio, they modified them in an effort to make thier internal organs easier to see so they could do cancer and pollution research. Making the entire fish glow was essentially an accident.

Secondly, the genetic modification process doesn't hurt the fish at all and their offspring glow as well so it doesn't have to be repeated either.

 

[Mikaila31]

I agree with kraken, there is nothing wrong with glow fish.

 

[maverickbr66]

i dont have a problem with the glo-fish as they arent harmed by the process. It does lead down a steep path though. i have however convinced two of my three lfs to no longer carry dyed fish. And i have stopped people from buying them in the third store a number of times while lurking and looking at there selection to see if they have nething i can have one of the other stores get in for me.

 

[AdamWH]

When I was in Hong Kong I spoke with the owner of a store which sold lots of parrots (but not tail docked or dyed ones interestingly enough). I asked about the colours and he said that they came in two main colours, yellow and orange and he had two large tanks full of each so I doubt these fish have been dip-dyed then tatooed, just tattooed.

As to the tattooing, unlike most people its not really the fishes choice to be tatooed so to me its kind of like what the Nazis did to the Jewish people in WW2, abuse. As to the genetically modified fish, i am totally opposed to genetic engineering. I think that species (eventhough defining a species is sometimes hard!) evolved naturally over time to develop unique traits and genetic makeups. To try and compare hybridisation or artificial selection to this is ridiculous because under "natural" conditions there is absolutely no way that such genetic combinations could be made. 2 different species of neotropical cichlids making babies, I can see that happen. But a jellyfish and a freshwater fish? I think not.

Adam

 

[PermanentXHate]

Wow, I started a thread and then couldn't get back to it very often and it exploded. LOL!

Dying fish is horrible and there is only one lfs out of four or five here that sale them and I refuse to shop there. Not to mention the lady who runs the fish department there is a B**** (excuse me but it's true) I WISH I could get them to stop selling the dyed fish, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about doing that.

Any suggestions?

On another note. A fish that said I love you on it would creep me out. Just thought I should mention that. Next thing you know fish are gonna be made for swimming bill boards. And that is so wrong.

 

[T1KARMANN]

the parrots are tattooed

it just goes to show how little respect the breeders have for the man made parrot as no other fish has been tattooed or had its tail cut off to make a heart shape

 

[SJ2K]

Parrots are ugly enough as it is let alone tattooing them

This is clearly messed up, all we can do though is try our best to limit demand by letting people know the truth

 

[funkyhoney]

I'm sure this sounds horribly racist, but I honestly can't see those fish having a market outside of Asia.

 

[T1KARMANN]

i people stopped buy the parrot of ANY kind then they would stop making them

their are so many nice fish around that are not man made why do people even consider buying them

you say their is only a market for this kind of fish in asia but i wonder how many dyed parrots have been sold in the US or UK

you have to be careful what you say about hybrids in this part of the forum but IMO the parrot in genral is just wrong

 

[ALEXF]

The only dyed fish that i have seen are what stores call "i love you" mollies, they have been dyed toi have the shape of a heart on their sides, im not a fan of mollies but these ones are even worse.......grrr.... ppl are irritating.

 

[Soaup]

Just out of curiosity, can parrots be kept sucsessfuly with goldfish? The tank in the picture has a couple of shubinkins in with them.

No.. Not that i know of. I would say that the goldfish wouldnt last in the warm waters your parrot needs, or vise versa.