Horrid sleep schedule

[Naughts]

Have you considered an app like Rise?

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It tracks your sleep and tells you how much “sleep debt” you have, and then gives you times to go to bed and wake up. I have a friend that had a horrible sleep schedule, but after using rise, she says she’s been getting the best sleep ever.

So how does the app improve your sleep?

 

[PheonixKingZ]

So how does the app improve your sleep?

I explained it in the exact post you quoted.

 

[Naughts]

I explained it in the exact post you quoted.

No you said it tells you that you are sleep deprived, which insomniacs already know.
You say it tells you to have a sleep time and a wake time, which insomniacs already do.
If you have trouble falling asleep and staying asleep, how is an app that tells you you are in sleep debt helping?

 

[Caesar]

Try melatonin. May work. It is non habit forming.

Good suggestion, I've never really looked into it.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

No you said it tells you that you are sleep deprived, which insomniacs already know.
You say it tells you to have a sleep time and a wake time, which insomniacs already do.
If you have trouble falling asleep and staying asleep, how is an app that tells you you are in sleep debt helping?

Did you click the link? Explains everything right there

 

[Naughts]

Did you click the link? Explains everything right there
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No I hadn't, but it's drivel." An algorithm for optimum rest period?" - try 'at night'." Encourages you to get to bed on time" - try self discipline. But neither has an impact on someone with genuine insomnia.
People know the simple theories and they don't fix a complex problem.

 

[charmd2]

I had the worst sleep schedule, insomnia, waking all night ever until I had a sleep study and got diagnosed with sleep apnea. My cpap is my best friend. I sleep great now.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

No I hadn't, but it's drivel." An algorithm for optimum rest period?" - try 'at night'." Encourages you to get to bed on time" - try self discipline. But neither has an impact on someone with genuine insomnia.
People know the simple theories and they don't fix a complex problem.

Bro, it was just a suggestion, lay off with the sauce.

 

[Rockfella]

Good suggestion, I've never really looked into it.

Weight lifting/jogging? This is a hard one but a life changer.

 

[itiwhetu]

I know from doing twenty-five years of night shift, when you are tired you sleep. Regardless

 

[Deleted member 149562]

Trouble is when you are unwell, the body decides that it needs to sleep in order to heal itself.

This is all well and good except that the body does not care whether it is 10am or 10pm...sleep it wants, sleep it demands and sleep it will have no matter how much you fight it.

Once you are feeling better, your sleep pattern has pretty much gone flying out the window and you end up having to retrain your brain as to when it is an appropriate time to sleep.....as in not mid morning, when bored whilst attending that meeting or sat in the car waiting for the other half to finish the shopping

Just as with my braincell that I put in charge of listening for the alarm at 3am still refuses to be retrained over 15 years after I stopped working......some bodies take longer to get the message than others in relation to when sleep is appropriate and when it isn't...and some, well they just never get the message and you are plagued with 3am wake up calls for the rest of time

Sadly the human body is not like a computer that we can reboot when it goes awry....we have to retrain it, which can take a long time....or we can force it by using Valerian root or melatonin to trick that one stubborn braincell into co-operating...or we can take up reading extremely boring books at night, but that can be hazardous if the book flops onto your face and you wake with a black eye or two

Getting out of a healing sleep routine of being asleep at the wrong time of the day or for longer than you would normally sleep is extremely hard, sometimes needing medical intervention to make sure that the sleep disturbance is just down to being previously unwell and not due to something more serious. The use of "assistants" like Valerian should only be used for 2 weeks, if after that length of time you still have sleep disturbances, then a visit to the doctor might be a good plan, just to make sure there is no other reason why its happening.

 

[Naughts]

Bro, it was just a suggestion, lay off with the sauce.

I'm sure you are aware that highly loaded terms like bro can be offensive for many reasons, more so when you do not know people.
This forum is not restricted to young white male centric culture.
Thank you.

 

[Caesar]

Weight lifting/jogging? This is a hard one but a life changer.

Bad knee so I don't jog, I have a gym membership but it's been closed most of covid. While it reopened, the hours didn't align with work schedule.

 

[Caesar]

I'm sure you are aware that highly loaded terms like bro can be offensive for many reasons, more so when you do not know people.
This forum is not restricted to young white male centric culture.
Thank you.

I don't think I've ever heard someone say bro is offensive, I'd love if you could elaborate. I live in a pretty diverse city and haven't come across this before. My social circle has Nicaraguanse, Iranian, Indian, Filipino, Fijian, white, Chinese, and other mixes.

Not looking to fight, just giving my anecdotal experience and wanting to hear your thoughts.

 

[Naughts]

It is used in different ways by different people. Any stereoype can be derogatory. Look at the context.