High Kill Shelters

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I have noticed that there are some kittens up for adoption at high kill shelters. I feel so bad for these poor animals, as they will never have a chance at living. I think that these places are terrible!

There are other options than killing tha cats! They could set up a cat village and alter all the cats. Tag them and let them live free in the wild. they have one of those behind a resturant I go to at times, and all that cats are friendly, taken care of and best of all ALIVE!

Not to mention that these cats are purebreed cat's as well, which means that they are usually taken care4 of and on high demand, they should advertise and get them a home!

I did send the place an e-mail suggesting to do that, and I hope that they will be able to find a place for them.
 
I work at a no kill shelter and we do our best to never euthanize. We have over 150 cats and about 120 dogs. We're full to the brim. Kill shelters make me sick. Don't even get me started. But there are alternatives. I just wish the rest of the world would see that. Atleast at our shelter, everybody gets a chance.


wrs said:
I have noticed that there are some kittens up for adoption at high kill shelters. I feel so bad for these poor animals, as they will never have a chance at living. I think that these places are terrible!

There are other options than killing tha cats! They could set up a cat village and alter all the cats. Tag them and let them live free in the wild. they have one of those behind a resturant I go to at times, and all that cats are friendly, taken care of and best of all ALIVE!

Not to mention that these cats are purebreed cat's as well, which means that they are usually taken care4 of and on high demand, they should advertise and get them a home!

I did send the place an e-mail suggesting to do that, and I hope that they will be able to find a place for them.
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I dont even like to think about those high kill shelters. WE have one here also. They killed 700 cats this July. I cried for three days over it when I read about it in the newspaper. I hate this place sometimes. They have no hearts when it comes to animals where I live..
 
I just watched document about shelters there and it was intresting. I'm just curious, JackDemp528. Do you euthanise dangerous animals or do you keep them too? Do you test animals when they come to your shelter? Like test if they let you check their teeth and let you hug them and let you take their food. Do you have dogs that have to live all their lives at the shelter alone in the cage.

Why do you have that much homeless dogs in states? Are dogs cheap? Why do that many owners abandon their dogs? It's difficult to understand for me, maybe because we don't have homeless dogs almost at all. Right now we have situation that someone had ~100 dogs and he treated them bad, so right now we have those more than 100 dogs homeless (that are not ready to be rehomed thought). Usualy I think I can find about max. 20 homeless dogs in whole country. Last time I went to see homeless dogs to the shelter there were 1, we took that one. It wasn't easy dog thought, it was kind to our family but aggressive to strangers in walks. It was sick too and died to cancer quite soon. We had it only for few years.

Since we don't have much own homeless dogs we bring them from other countries, from estonia and russia most.
 
thapsus said:
I just watched document about shelters there and it was intresting. I'm just curious, JackDemp528. Do you euthanise dangerous animals or do you keep them too? Do you test animals when they come to your shelter? Like test if they let you check their teeth and let you hug them and let you take their food. Do you have dogs that have to live all their lives at the shelter alone in the cage.

Why do you have that much homeless dogs in states? Are dogs cheap? Why do that many owners abandon their dogs? It's difficult to understand for me, maybe because we don't have homeless dogs almost at all. Right now we have situation that someone had ~100 dogs and he treated them bad, so right now we have those more than 100 dogs homeless (that are not ready to be rehomed thought). Usualy I think I can find about max. 20 homeless dogs in whole country. Last time I went to see homeless dogs to the shelter there were 1, we took that one. It wasn't easy dog thought, it was kind to our family but aggressive to strangers in walks. It was sick too and died to cancer quite soon. We had it only for few years.

Since we don't have much own homeless dogs we bring them from other countries, from estonia and russia most.
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Hi thapsus, I'm right near you in Sweden :D If you take a look at this thread it'll answer some of your questions http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=104750

I'm from the states and have been living in Sweden for 2 years. Dogs are cheap in the states you can basically get a puppy/dog anytime from anywhere if you want. Because of that there are just so many unwanted dogs (animals) in America. It isn't like over near us where even mixed puppies cost a lot. Mixed puppies in the states are free most of the time. Just take a look in a paper over there and you'll see all the free ads for animals. I'm not sure what the underlying issue is but it seems to be that one of the major issues is animals falling into the wrong people hands. People that dont look after them properly, people that don't spay or neuter them and let their dogs roam around and get pregnant and produce litters of puppies and then a few years later they just end up getting tired of them and giving them to shelters :S Then they repeat it over again by getting another puppy not spaying or neutering it etc etc.
 
All but one of our non fishy animals have come from the local shelter. My one cat that didnt was a prego strey that I fell for. I only go to the no kill shelters but they get so full they have to stop accepting animals.

Such a sad world, my old apartment manager put poison out for cats. I called the animal control and they said they couldnt do anything about it. So I yelled and screamed and him told him he was scum then moved out. <---- and took the strey and her kittens with me :-(
 
this is what the e-mail from the place said

We have an indoor only policy.

PATHETIC! They post that they want them to live, yet theree rae things that they can do to save them, and they wont because they are indoor only places!
 
Well to answer all of those questions. I'll describe us, the Hillside SPCA, heaven on earth for most lovely pups. Our Website

Well we have about 110 dogs right now and not all are adoptable. Most of the unadoptable dogs will go home with the workers. I have a couple that will be coming home with me. They live at the shelter until they get to go home with us. We just don't have the heart to put them to sleep. After all, most of the unadoptable ones have had absolutely horrible lives! And now that they have it so good, we shouldn't have to kill them.
A day in the life of a Hillside dog:
They get up in the morning and are let out of the kennels, these are only the ones that need to be in kennels, the ones we don't trust to not make fights during the nights. But they're let out into the yards. We have huge fenced in yards that the dogs get to run in all day, and play and sleep. They're never kept cooped up. They get breakfast, then get to lounge, run, and play all day. There are the walks that my boss and I take, where we take about 20 dogs at a time up the mountain on a hike. Most of the dogs will stay with us off the leash. It's like a big pack. They love it here so much they don't want to go. We have 3 different walks, all for different speeds and personalities. The more obnoxious and fast dogs go first, then the less energetic and nicer dogs go second, then the older slower guys go last. Then they get to loaf for the rest of the day. My dogs go with me everywhere. Everytime I go out the door, they go out the door and walk around with me, and won't leave my side. Most of the workers have dogs that are like this. Then around 2 the fights start because some of the dogs get too excited about bed time. So the trouble makers go to bed in their kennels, and then eventually over the next 2 hours everyone is put to their beds where they belong. And get dinner, and then nap all night, and wait for the next day.

We love our dogs, and spend all day with them, walking them, playing with them, petting them. And of course breaking up their fights occasionally. Which results in many bites, like the one I got a two weeks ago. But we love them none the less.
And we run completely on donations, the state pretty much hates us. But we do it for the dogs.

I don't know if there's anymore questions. Feel free to ask.
 
I was just watching a show on the news and this one shelter says they get atleast 7000 cats a year and only around 1000 are adopted out. All the other ones are destroyed :-( That is why I don't like people who breed dogs just for the fun of it or to get money, and I find it disturbing and cry whenever I see "Look my cat had kittens" threads on here...it also pisses me off so badly when people refuse to get their animals fixed, becuase they don't have any money, well why would you get an animal in the first place if you can't afford to take care of it! An example is my friend, they got a dog (poor thing never gets walked anymore, its overweight already) and they won't get it spayed because her step-mom wants to get her stomach stapled (so she can fit into a wedding dress to get married to my friends dad). It bothers me terribly that they didn't think that getting a dog AFTER they did all that would make more sense. I could go on and on but I'll stop here. I need to go hug my dog.
 
You think it bothers you! You should see the faces on those poor animals when they come into the shelter. Bewildered and shell shocked. Their whole worlds turned upside down. And why? Oh because he peed on my sofa, or because she won't stay with me off the leash, or oh because she doesn't match my furniture!!!!! I get so extremely irritated with people. .... I'm not going to continue....
 
Why would you purposely not adopt from a kill shelter. Adopting from one of those purposely, effectively, and immediently saves a life? :/


It's a hard thing to take care of all these strays that people let accumulate and re-populate.

Dogs that are aggressive really need to be PTS imo. They aren't safe anymore. It may not be their fault that they are now aggressive, but if they bite someone or kill someone's pet because it wasn't put down...then it's whoever chose to "spare" it's life's fault for it's actions. You never know when that dog may rip the leash from your hand and go after something or someone. And they can all do it...they just may have not have realized they "can" just yet.

They have to PTS so many animals because there is no place to house them all. We have inmates sleeping in prison's with 5-6 people to a 4 person cell because they don't have enough room for all of them...and we have 3-6 puppies/kittens being born to every human baby, daily. That rreally adds up.

If we don't have enough room for all the inmates, and they aren't jumping up and down to make more prisons to house them either..do you think they are going to build more shelters to house more animals any sooner? No. So to end the suffering of them..and make room for others, to give them a chance, even if brief, they have to remove the ones that no one have shown interest in.

It's the plight of man..who chose to breed animals for domesticated human companionship in the first place. We, as humans, started this whole mess. it's kinda like Eve eating that apple she wasn't suposed to...now we all have to deal with the consequences of prior people's stupid, irresponsible actions..the best and most effective way we can.

It's sad, but IMO it's better to end a miserable existance then let them live...cooped up in a cage for the rest of, what one might call, their life...it's not really a life it's just existing basically, there is no quality of life in a cold, bare, cage with no view of the outside world..only a painted concrete block wall or another row of cages...with the occasional child walking by and poking their fingers in to give a small dose of human affection.

But then you have the people who say "why get an animal if you can't take care of it?", well what if when they got it they were able..but when the time came to have it fixed..they weren't? What if they didn't realize JUST how expensive getting a female dog/cat was gonna be? What if they adopted a stray they found wandering down their street or at their work? What if they got the dog/cat then they lost their job? What if their neighbor moved and left 3 animals behind?
What do they do with it? Take it to a shelter? -_- No win situation IMHO in those cases (I'm aware that not all are that way..and that most people are just irresponsible, lazy, cheap, adn ignorant..but I do like to give the ones who deserve the benefit of the doubt..just that).

It does make me sick, and sad, to think about how many die every year in shelters. It makes me sicker though, to think how many animals get put into shelters, or roam the streets, because people are in those above mentioned circumstances, where they can't get them fixed. Where they already have the animal, and they have no means to stop the re-population once it starts.

I think since it is SUCH a problem that the government should put a ban on or regulate vet clinics for charging SO freakin much to have a dog or cat fixed. I mean..they regulate the utility companies from price gouging us..why not them too? It is ABSURD what they try to charge people for spaying, and nuetering.
Before I discovered the Friends of Cats and Dogs Foundation's Low cost spay/neuter program..I paid close to $300 to have one of my female dogs fixed..and that was about 6 years ago....I can't imagine what it might cost now. :crazy: With the certificate I can buy now..it's $56 to spay a female dog...but it's not a "advertised" program either. Most people don't even know about it....and vet's sure don't push it.

The same people who want to *****, and make a fuss, about people not getting them fixed... are the same ones who want to charge so much for these procedures...that a low income, hard working, individual or elderly person basically needs to float a loan, or not pay a utility bill or rent installment, to be able to get their pet fixed.
And to be honest, if gas prices keep going up like they have (they went up .75 cents in 1 week here (.50 cents over night!) and keep going up..gas is close to $3 a gallon for the "cheap" stuff now) ..most of us are going to get bumped into the low income bracket soon.

They had a program here for a while, for low income families (the ones who have medicaid, either for themselves..elderly or for their children..healthy mid age adults don't qualify for medicaid) to get their animals (up to 6 animals, dog or cat, for each qualifiying person) fixed for a really low price (male cats $5, male dog $10, female cat $15, female dog $20)..but after a year they dis-continued it..why?
Because the vet's weren't making any money and wouldn't continue to support the program. :rolleyes: Even the low cost spay/nueter prgram is dwindling now...last year there were 50 vets in my area...now there are approx. 20...because vets don't wanna lose the "revenue".

THAT is what makes me sick. People want to complain about it and act all concerned about it...but when it comes down to a REAL solution..they him-haw around and back out..when there isn't anything in it for THEM. :X

Sorry....this subject riles me up lol.
 
So am I wrong for wanting people to get their animals fixed? I don't know, I'm confused...
 
:no:

did you miss this part or something

I think since it is SUCH a problem that the government should put a ban on or regulate vet clinics for charging SO freakin much to have a dog or cat fixed. I mean..they regulate the utility companies from price gouging us..why not them too? It is ABSURD what they try to charge people for spaying, and nuetering.
Before I discovered the Friends of Cats and Dogs Foundation's Low cost spay/neuter program..I paid close to $300 to have one of my female dogs fixed..and that was about 6 years ago....I can't imagine what it might cost now.  With the certificate I can buy now..it's $56 to spay a female dog...but it's not a "advertised" program either. Most people don't even know about it....and vet's sure don't push it.
 
And to be honest, if gas prices keep going up like they have (they went up .75 cents in 1 week here (.50 cents over night!) and keep going up..gas is close to $3 a gallon for the "cheap" stuff now) ..most of us are going to get bumped into the low income bracket soon.

Expencive...
Its $6,86 / uk gallon here and going up.
 
thapsus said:
And to be honest, if gas prices keep going up like they have (they went up .75 cents in 1 week here (.50 cents over night!) and keep going up..gas is close to $3 a gallon for the "cheap" stuff now) ..most of us are going to get bumped into the low income bracket soon.

Expencive...
Its $6,86 / uk gallon here and going up.
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but most americans also have to drive more miles. some examples: the only way i can go home from university to see my family is to drive 150 miles. the only way i can go buy groceries is to drive 5 miles. my hometown is largely suburban housing with centralized commercial/business districts. both my parents work about 30 miles from home. it all adds up. :dunno:

in Alabama at least, there's virtually no public transportation and very few urban centers. the vast majority of people live in suburbs or semi-rural areas so in order to participate in daily living, they have to drive places. since i turned 16, i have driven over 90,000 miles simply getting from point A to B. that's 18k a year and i don't even go out much! but if i ever do feel like going to visit a friend, have to go shopping, or need to see a doctor... i have to drive there.

sorry to hijack, i just thought i'd explain a bit.
 

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