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Hmm I might try and see whether there is anyone local selling a second hand decent sized tank but with where I'm situated people round here are tight and they normally chuck things away so that might be a dead end. I could see if there is anything on gumtree but hopefully like I said when my brother comes to visit he said we could go to the fish store and he would help me choose which is best so hopefully I might finally be on the right tracks. Thanks for all the help you have gave me and I'm glad I joined here everyone has been really helpful :)
 
I found this http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/414256-my-new-tank-finally-has-fish/ which might be useful as it is the same tank you are considering.
 
Gumtree is great I recently bought a Juwel Vision 180 with two Eheim external filters plus heater and loads of extras totally approx £700 worth of stuff for £100 and it looks like new.  I also got an Aquaone 980 with stand, internal and external filter plus loads of extras, for a fraction of what it would cost new.  You need to know what you are doing though when buying secondhand and be prepared to walk away if it is not what you want.  I initially bought a smaller Aquaone 320 with stand, heater, filter, fish etc., and when I arrived to look at it the guy had drained the tank and put the fish in a tiny ice cream container.  I bought it because I felt the fish were too large for the aquarium (not the ideal reason), but when I got it all home, the filter had not been cleaned out in forever, the heater did not even have a fuse in the plug (I was advised all was working!), the fish were in toxic water and there were other issues.  I had to quickly set up an even smaller aquarium to house the fish as my LFS (Local Fish Shop) was closed.  I later gave the large catfish to the LFS and he has gone to a very large tank 350L, and the Java Loach is now with others in my 215L and is a lot fatter than when I got it!  As for the small aquarium I still have it, but want to replace it. 
 
Do not let this scare you though as buying through Gumtree can be very rewarding as per my Juwel and Aquaone 980.  I watched the Juwel for sometime, saw the price drop over time, went to see it up and running with fish in, wanted it without the fish, bought the Aquaone, a week later it dropped by 50% and the fish were gone, too good to miss!  So the key here is to ideally see the aquarium up and running (my 980 was not but it was in good condition).  Ask questions of the owner and get a "feel" for if they know what they are doing and have looked after the aquarium.  Do not take their word on anything but check it for yourself.  Anyone genuine with the fishes welfare at the forefront will be happy to talk to you.  The best buys are those who just do not have the time anymore (both of my large aquariums) or are moving.  As other posters have said if you get one up and running with the fish you have everything you need without all the hassle of waiting for the aquarium to cycle etc.  If you do manage to find a good buy then you will need containers to not only transfer the fish but also at least 50%+ of the water (others advise if you think different %).  A good container is a beer bucket as these hold about 25-30L, have a lid and are great for later water changes etc.
 
Re: getting the fish with an aquarium.  Remember that the cost of fish can also add up, so if you initially purchase an aquarium with fish this can save you quite a bit.  Plus if some of them are not quite what you want then your LFS will usually take what you do not want.  They do not usually give you money (may give you food or swap if your lucky) for them but at least it is a good way to part with them.  Main thing is look for a set up that matches what you ideally want e.g. tropical community or cichlids.
 
I agree with other posters that a good fish shop maybe a better option for you as they are in it for the long haul and usually happy to share their knowledge.  Do a search on "East Anglia, Norfolk tropical fish stores" and you will come across some interesting info., whereby others in your area say which shops they go to.  For Gumtree search for "Gumtree Norfolk" then put aquarium in the search on Gumtree, then after you have looked there be sure to then click the Fish Tank(s) links as they will often give extra choices.  Just had a quick look and there are a few nice aquariums on there, some are empty but look in good condition and not that old.
 
Where are you planning to locate your aquarium?  If it is in the bedroom make sure the filters etc are ultra quiet.
 
Of course all of us will have different opinions based on what has worked for us, and you can become overwhelmed, however we are all here to help and want your new hobby to be a success for you, so continue to ask away.
 
Happy hunting, look forward to hearing more from your journey into a wonderful hobby, although be warned it can be addictive
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Well I'm thinking of placing my aquarium in the kitchen where my coldwater aquarium is but whether that will be a place for it in the end is another matter for the simple reason of the temperature of the room. I have looked on gumtree and there is some reasonably good ones but the either are new or look in a bad state, although there is some that look in good condition. I yesterday done a partial water change on my coldwater tank and cleaned the airpump and everything, so that is looking good. If I was having it in my bedroom it wouldn't matter much about the filter cos I slept through an earthquake so it isn't a problem. :) thanks and yeah I think if I get into it it might become a problem because I already have a lot of animals and might be getting another rabbit soon so my parents house is like a petting zoo :)
 
I started with 37 US gallons.  I could stock this many fish in it:
2 Red Wag Platys
5 Long Fin Red Minor Tetra
1 Dwarf Gourami
11 Neon Tetra
I'm planning on getting some more but have to wait a while as I'm still in the slowly adding stage.
Good luck!  Have fun and enjoy your new aquarium!
 
Thanks I found a tank on gumtree, it's a clear seal length 61cm width 30.5cm and height of 38.5cm it is up and running and has
1 common pleco
2 pepper cory
1 red tailed shark
1 blue gourami and 1 gold gourami
It comes with plenty of decor all for £55
Does that sound decent and good for the tank. In the pics there looks to be no scratches. It also says that the tanks is around 18months old, the new light tubes are less than 2months old and the fish themselves are around 2years. Good or Bad? :)
 
Had a look and this aquarium is £35 new (pets at home) without hood or anything else.
 
Some of the fish in there I believe are too big (or will certainly get too big) for this aquarium, so you would need to re-home them.
Common pleco x1, Red Tail Black Shark x1, Blue Gourami x1, Gold Gourami x1

You could probably get away with keeping the Pepper Cory x2
 
It is just a basic tank, not sure what sort of lighting it has with it?  If you are really interested I would ask more about the lighting, filter, air-pump, heater, make, model and size.
 
I would think you could also get it a bit cheaper as it has been on there over two weeks and not all the fish are of benefit to you.  You could go and see it, and if you feel it is in good condition make your mind up then.  Get the info (as above) prior to going to see it, then you can do your homework prior.  I would be interested to know why it is not filled to the top i.e. is it leaking?  Ask them to fill it before you go to look at it, maybe?
 
Is this the largest one you can fit into the space, as bigger the better, as per CoryLover95's post.
 
There have been some more added since you looked, under fish tanks it looks like there is possibly a Juwel Vision (does not say this, so check if interested) Bow Fronted with stand for £75 ONO.  That is a good price for that tank, it holds about 180 Litres.  Not sure if this is too big for you though?  Plus it does not look like there is much else with it.  Depends on your budget and what you are wanting ideally...
 
...Happy hunting ...keep us posted.
 
Just to add something here. I had a 4ft x 2ft 90ish gallons (400ish litres i thing) made for me. A custom 90gal tank brand new was £90 and a stand and lid was an extra £60! £150 for a large tank and stand brand new, unbelievable value!  and they delivered for free!
 
http://www.southdown-aquatics.co.uk/contact_us.php
 
The blokes name was richard, nice guy builds em himself!
 
Thanks RCA yeah I was wondering myself why the water level was that low, yeah like the highest I could go is 100L or slightly bigger. My budget as I have said previously is around £200 if need be, aether.ed that could be a possibility getting a custom but I was thinking of getting second hand to begin with so I don't have to worry about major cycling. RCA ideally I am looking for a good starter tank preferably setup already because of cycling but it isn't a necessity, also if I was to cycle a new tank myself I want fish that are a good starter and are hardy because of being a beginner.
 
Are you patient
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?  How soon do you need/want your aquarium?
 
My reason for asking is that I am patient and look and wait for the right aquarium.  You could keep watching Gumtree for a couple of weeks to get an idea of what comes and goes.  If there is an aquarium on there you like the look of though do not let it disappear!  With my Aqua One 980 I was watching it for weeks before I bought it, then looked at the Juwel Vision 180 on the same day.  I was patient enough to wait until they were both a great price, but of course there is always the risk if it is a nice aquarium you could loose out to another buyer.
 
I will try and have a look on there myself from time to time, however, I recommend you look regularly or set up an alert to your email.  Then if you see one you like call or email the owner for more info.,(if required) as per my post on 16 Feb above, and post on here and someone will get back to you.
 
I see you fancy a Betta, they are great fish, but then I am somewhat biased as I have been bitten by the Betta Bug
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I am patient I'm not needing one straight away but I like to look at things a lot before going and buying something for example I kept asking my parents for a dog for 3 years and by luck a man with a border collie starts talking to my mum and neighbours one day saying that if the dog can't find a home a farmer was going to shoot her and that was by sheer luck I got a dog. So yeah I am a patient person like if my parents say maybe soon for another animal I will wait, haha yeah I love Bettas I saw them for the first time at pets at home when I was looking at their fish and it was like love at first sight. I am hoping that my brother comes back down soon he said hopefully before Easter so I am hoping that when he does we can go to P@H and the fish store and he can help me out.
 
Cool that is good, I am the same as I like to do a lot of research on any equipment and fish before I get them.  Keep us posted if you see anything else you like on Gumtree, as we have stated it would be a lot easier if you could get a fully cycled aquarium.  Be careful though, by ensuring it has been maintained and well looked after.  I once got fish where the water was off the scale in terms of toxicity, so none of it was any good and the filter sponges had had it!  I really just did it to rescue the fish, not the ideal reason to buying an aquarium, and one I would not recommend!
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Yeah that is a good point sometime I feel bad and sad for certain animals so I feel I need to rescue them and thanks I'll keep you posted whenever necessary :)
 

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