Help! My cories spawned! What do I do??

[itiwhetu]

I've seen photo journals of NC raising cory fry this way, with lots of healthy babies.

I've never even seen your tanks. You don't share a lot of evidence showing your ways working, you just dictate that your ways are the only ways, and that everyone else is wrong.

Most of the work I have done with breeding fish was pre the internet. When you are working for an organisation with 2000 tanks you dont have time to do photo journals. I never dictate, you are free to do anything you like I am just trying to get you to think about what you are doing and why.

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

Most of the work I have done with breeding fish was pre the internet. When you are working for an organisation with 2000 tanks you dont have time to do photo journals. I never dictate you are free to do anything you like I am just trying to get you to think about what you are doing and why.

I dislike the assumption that I don't think about what I'm doing, or why.

You keep saying that there's a better way, and that's fine. But you often speak as though you have everything figured out, and you think of the rest of us as idiots. It's insulting, and I don't know whether you even know that you're doing that.

I'm sure a lot of the work you did was pre-internet. But you have tanks now, you could show the results of your methods of fishkeeping, but you don't. I'd love to see your tanks, but you don't upload pictures - why? If your methods are so much better, why won't you show them? Or link to scientific evidence that leaving cory eggs with the parents is the best way, or that alkaline tanks are what cause most fish keeping problems, or that water changes are bad...

Talk is cheap. You say that you know best, but supply no evidence either by linking to proof or even showing your own tanks and fish. @seangee does weekly 75% water changes, and his tanks and fish are breathtakingly beautiful, and I can see with my own eyes that his methods work. Others show new scientific discoveries or link to experts, or show the process of them rearing fry.

You want me to take your word for it, while also acting like I'm idiot and insulting my intelligence at the same time.

 

[FishGuest5123]

I've seen photo journals of NC raising cory fry this way, with lots of healthy babies.

I've never even seen your tanks. You don't share a lot of evidence showing your ways working, you just dictate that your ways are the only ways, and that everyone else is wrong.

@itiwhetu I’m afraid that I have to agree. Not trying to be rude but you get very tiresome to listen too. You say that removing the eggs is not good. How was I so successful as a breeder for years then. Also, are you even aware that some eggs are sticky and some are not? It’s not one way for all egg layers. You have got to open your mind and realize that others know what they are doing too. Broaden your mind, you may learn something. I’d like to see some of your pics too. I apologize if I offended you but you have been offensive to several members yourself.

 

[itiwhetu]

Egg yolk should only be used as an emergency food source. It should be temporary for if a live culture has failed, for example, and not the main food source

The reason egg is so good is that you know the fry are eating. Any live food as first food, like green water is very hard to determine the quality and quantity of what is the water unless you have a microscope on hand.I have looked at green water through a microscope and the conclusion was it is inconsistent at best. Sometimes when you are trying to be natural you have to know when to change direction for the benifit of the fish

 

[FishGuest5123]

Most of the work I have done with breeding fish was pre the internet. When you are working for an organisation with 2000 tanks you dont have time to do photo journals. I never dictate, you are free to do anything you like I am just trying to get you to think about what you are doing and why.

Bologna! We kept pics and journals pre-internet

 

[FishGuest5123]

I dislike the assumption that I don't think about what I'm doing, or why.

You keep saying that there's a better way, and that's fine. But you often speak as though you have everything figured out, and you think of the rest of us as idiots. It's insulting, and I don't know whether you even know that you're doing that.

I'm sure a lot of the work you did was pre-internet. But you have tanks now, you could show the results of your methods of fishkeeping, but you don't. I'd love to see your tanks, but you don't upload pictures - why? If your methods are so much better, why won't you show them? Or link to scientific evidence that leaving cory eggs with the parents is the best way, or that alkaline tanks are what cause most fish keeping problems, or that water changes are bad...

Talk is cheap. You say that you know best, but supply no evidence either by linking to proof or even showing your own tanks and fish. @seangee does weekly 75% water changes, and his tanks and fish are breathtakingly beautiful, and I can see with my own eyes that his methods work. Others show new scientific discoveries or link to experts, or show the process of them rearing fry.

You want me to take your word for it, while also acting like I'm idiot and insulting my intelligence at the same time.

 

[itiwhetu]

I dislike the assumption that I don't think about what I'm doing, or why.

You keep saying that there's a better way, and that's fine. But you often speak as though you have everything figured out, and you think of the rest of us as idiots. It's insulting, and I don't know whether you even know that you're doing that.

I'm sure a lot of the work you did was pre-internet. But you have tanks now, you could show the results of your methods of fishkeeping, but you don't. I'd love to see your tanks, but you don't upload pictures - why? If your methods are so much better, why won't you show them? Or link to scientific evidence that leaving cory eggs with the parents is the best way, or that alkaline tanks are what cause most fish keeping problems, or that water changes are bad...

Talk is cheap. You say that you know best, but supply no evidence either by linking to proof or even showing your own tanks and fish. @seangee does weekly 75% water changes, and his tanks and fish are breathtakingly beautiful, and I can see with my own eyes that his methods work. Others show new scientific discoveries or link to experts, or show the process of them rearing fry.

You want me to take your word for it, while also acting like I'm idiot and insulting my intelligence at the same time.

You are only reading what you want to I said it was possable to leave the parents in the tank not that you should. I stand by my word leaving the eggs alone is the best thing for the eggs

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

You are only reading what you want to I said it was possable to leave the parents in the tank not that you should. I stand by my word leaving the eggs alone is the best thing for the eggs

Again, standing by your word doesn't mean much when you haven't shown anything to back up your word.

I'm not "reading into" anything, you've said that we're wrong in several threads, that our methods are wrong and no one will listen to you, and you made a point to say that you chipped in on my thread here despite knowing I wouldn't want to hear it, "because others will read this and I want them to know it's not the best way".

Prove that your ways are best. Show your tanks.

 

[mbsqw1d]

Yes nature does things best. But if I hadn't removed any of the corydoras eggs over the last two weeks that they have been spawning, I wouldn't have any fry. I've been too late to grab some because the adults have eaten them. They don't seek them out like they're food to be eaten, its just in their own dopey corydoras way that they stumble across them and gobble them up.

 

[itiwhetu]

I have put up numerous photos of tanks and fish I have had. I have explained that at the moment I only have the one tank eith african cichlid fry in it. And there is thread to those fish. I have never said your methods are wrong i have however pointed out that I feel there is a better. I have let you guys do your 75% water changes even tho I would never do it and don't think it is best practice. I also let you guys use meds even tho I would never do it myself. And I never comment on those threads. I ask you to be reasonable and consider some of what I say

 

[itiwhetu]

Yes nature does things best. But if I hadn't removed any of the corydoras eggs over the last two weeks that they have been spawning, I wouldn't have any fry. I've been too late to grab some because the adults have eaten them. They don't seek them out like they're food to be eaten, its just in their own dopey corydoras way that they stumble across them and gobble them up.

Usually if you feed the adults sraight after spawning they will lose interest in the eggs. Of course the more space the better

 

[CassCats]

Ian Fuller is considered to be one of the best, if not the best, corydoras expert.
This article regards caring for the eggs and fry written by him.

Hatching Corydoras & Fry raising

recommends separating the eggs and removing them via rolling off glass with finger. And live foods.

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

I have put up numerous photos of tanks and fish I have had. I have explained that at the moment I only have the one tank eith african cichlid fry in it. And there is thread to those fish.

Where?? Am I meant to hunt through your post history back to 2012 to find it? Just upload new photos or link the thread, or say where exactly in the forum it is. You know where and when the thread was, but I don't feel like hunting through hundreds of pages of comment history to find them.

I have never said your methods are wrong i have however pointed out that I feel there is a better. I have let you guys do your 75% water changes even tho I would never do it and don't think it is best practice. I also let you guys use meds even tho I would never do it myself. And I never comment on those threads.

How kind of you to 'let us' use methods that we can show working...

You also still haven't shown how it isn't best practice, or what it harm it could cause. You just don't like it for your own reasons. You thought replacing water undid the point of cycling a tank, which only showed that you don't really understand what's going on when we cycle a tank, where the BB live in a tank.

I have never said your methods are wrong i have however pointed out that I feel there is a better.[...]
I ask you to be reasonable and consider some of what I say

Um, you did. In fact, you felt so strongly that the methods we talked about here are wrong, that you said this;

I need to post this here as other forum members will read this thread and I don't want them to go down this path. There are easier ways of breeding and raising these fish.

You still haven't explained how to do your method, other than leave the eggs where they're laid, and to feed egg yolk. How about if the eggs hatch, and the fry are hidden in the dark sand? Are the adults going to eat them then? Do I have to move the adults out? How are the un-co-ordinated fry going to find the food when I can't even see them? I'd have to fill the tank with quite a lot of egg yolk in the hopes they all got food, which would be messy, and you disapprove of water changes - so what should I do then? How do I avoid sucking up brand new cory fry I can't see against the dark substrate when I water change to remove clouds of egg yolk?

So no, you haven't really told me, or anyone else, a better way to do it, let alone shown it. You've just said "no! don't do that! You're wrong!" without laying out another method that could actually work. You want me to think about what I'm doing and why, and I am. I'm thinking about how on earth I'd rear tiny almost invisible fry in the parent tank without them dying from being eaten or poisoned by toxic water. You haven't helped me with that at all, only criticised.

 

[FishGuest5123]

Ian Fuller is considered to be one of the best, if not the best, corydoras expert.
This article regards caring for the eggs and fry written by him.

Hatching Corydoras & Fry raising

recommends separating the eggs and removing them via rolling off glass with finger. And live foods.

Ian is without a doubt the best!

 

[FishGuest5123]

Let’s just all get along and do things the way we feel is best or take the advice from who we feel is more knowledgable. @itiwhetu you now know that you are offending others with the way you present things. Perhaps you can work on that. Let’s all get along and move on.