Help Me To Stop The Noise

[woodyofcastle]

Hello all...

i have just set up a new BEETA lifestyle 1000 aquarium, the aquarium has a sump, all i keep getting is glugging sounds, its doing my head in

Click for my tank specs

here is a diagram of the tank

Help please

 

[woodyofcastle]

should the weir be full of water or empty of water

 

[SkiFletch]

Full. Where are the gluggling sounds coming from? The weir, or sown in the sump somehweres?

 

[andywg]

Fiver says you need a durso standpipe and/or to submerge the drain into the sump.

 

[woodyofcastle]

Full. Where are the gluggling sounds coming from? The weir, or sown in the sump somehweres?

The LFS told me to open the weir drain tap to full, so i did and it just emptied the gass weir and made a gasping air noise, so i closed the tap a bit to fill the glass weir and then the overflow started to make the noise, so if the glass weir has to be full then i will need to buy a peice of pipe to make the overflow pipe about 10 mm higher (i thought it looked short about 10mm will clear the glass weir by about 5mm)

Fiver says you need a durso standpipe and/or to submerge the drain into the sump.

I dont know what i need lol, normally a weir is made of a peice of plastic and a drain tube, but this one has a glass weir made inside the weir so that if it drains it can only drain a short amount (well thats what i think it is)

 

[woodyofcastle]

ALSO

what would you do with the sump, these are my thoughts...

1, foam or bio balls
2, 5kg of live rock rubble
3, miracle mud
4, return and a bag of phos remover

 

[jetbox]

i have a lifespace also and had the noise you talk about. if you play around with the tap you can balance the flow and get no noise. do not adjust the overflow pipe length, its that length for a reason, so that if the main drain blocks it will overflow.

I have also tried making a durso but its still not perfect though and needs some tap adjsutment too

 

[woodyofcastle]

i have a lifespace also and had the noise you talk about. if you play around with the tap you can balance the flow and get no noise. do not adjust the overflow pipe length, its that length for a reason, so that if the main drain blocks it will overflow.

I have also tried making a durso but its still not perfect though and needs some tap adjsutment too

Hi,

Thank you i will try it, i have messed about with the pipe and the tap is stiff, i pulled the damn pipe off and dropped 2 gallon on my carpet, but i will have another go at it (i was thinking of plastic welding the pipe to the drain hole)

 

[woodyofcastle]

ALSO

what would you do with the sump, these are my thoughts...

1, foam or bio balls
2, 5kg of live rock rubble
3, miracle mud
4, return and a bag of phos remover

Anybody got any idea's or comments about my sump set up, should i use bio balls or foam ect ect ect.

 

[Fatty]

Hi,

Can't find much info out there, but I'm intrigued.. I havn't come across a weir setup such as that.. It sounds like you're supposed to adjust the drain tap so the level of the water in the weir is just below the top of the overflow pipe, and if the overflow pipe top is level with the weir top (top of combs or just beneath), this would potentially give you a silent way of getting water to the sump, (of course until it goes crashing into the sump), but that's a sump noise prob!

I am right in thinking the drain is near the bottom of the weir and the overflow level with the top?

I'm keen to see if you can actually adjust the drain tap to give a near silent cm or so drop over the weir, of course if debris gathers within the drain tap then the flow is going to change thereby needing re-adjustment.

Let us know how it goes..

p.s. Well done for buying the pre-drilled tank etc!, I'm sure the extra money is well worth it (speaking from personal diy experience! ) oh, yeh, I'd use a slotted horizontal return pipe sunken into the sump (slots facing upwards), and foam on the top to minimize bubble noise and splashing.

 

[SkiFletch]

I THINK, a long since retired member by the name of Aquascaper used to have a weir like you guys are talking about. Is there anyway we can get some pics of this thing, cause I too am really intrigued.

As for what to have in the sump, I prefer natural refugiums to mechanical things like bioballs etc. Light it up with a small compact flourescent and stick some Chaetomorpha algae in there

 

[woodyofcastle]

I THINK, a long since retired member by the name of Aquascaper used to have a weir like you guys are talking about. Is there anyway we can get some pics of this thing, cause I too am really intrigued.

As for what to have in the sump, I prefer natural refugiums to mechanical things like bioballs etc. Light it up with a small compact flourescent and stick some Chaetomorpha algae in there

i will take some picture's in the morning and post them by 12 noon (gmt time)

 

[woodyofcastle]

Hi,

Can't find much info out there, but I'm intrigued.. I havn't come across a weir setup such as that.. It sounds like you're supposed to adjust the drain tap so the level of the water in the weir is just below the top of the overflow pipe, and if the overflow pipe top is level with the weir top (top of combs or just beneath), this would potentially give you a silent way of getting water to the sump, (of course until it goes crashing into the sump), but that's a sump noise prob!

I am right in thinking the drain is near the bottom of the weir and the overflow level with the top?

I'm keen to see if you can actually adjust the drain tap to give a near silent cm or so drop over the weir, of course if debris gathers within the drain tap then the flow is going to change thereby needing re-adjustment.

Let us know how it goes..

p.s. Well done for buying the pre-drilled tank etc!, I'm sure the extra money is well worth it (speaking from personal diy experience! ) oh, yeh, I'd use a slotted horizontal return pipe sunken into the sump (slots facing upwards), and foam on the top to minimize bubble noise and splashing.

Hello,

yes i have looked all over for this Aquarium and the company beeta, i found the company website

Beeta site (haiyang) if links are not allowed please delete

i have ajusted the tap and it took some doing to get a balance, but i have quietened it down (thank god) but it seems to me that there is not much turn over from the pump, the pump is rated at 3000lh, i have just ordered a oceanrunner 3500lh to see if that helpsthe OR3500 should turn the aquarium over 7 times per hour, and thats a head of 2 meters, i also have a koralia 3 and a resun wavemaker, they should stir the tank up...

pic's tomorrow

 

[andywg]

It's probably a double skinned weir, often used in messy FW tanks. The inner glass weir sets the height of the display tank while the outer plastic one prevents fish and crawlies getting in the weir, and also forces most of the water to come from the bottom (with a small amount taken at the top). This prevents too much stuff from settling on the bottom of a tank.

The best result is to do a durso standpipe so that the internal water level is a little below the surface. I have found that if you drill the top of a durso standpipe and insert some airline you can control the water level by moving the airline up and down. The water level goes down if you insert more of the airline into the standpipe (it would appear that the water level is at the bottom of the airline, but I can't be sure without transparent pipes).

 

[woodyofcastle]

Here are the pic's

well i think you are right ANDYWG it does look like what you discribed.

Here is a pic of the tank as it stands, i have added the salt got it to the right salinity of 1.024, and i have added 20kg of live sand