Help, Guppy Prolapse.... genetic or parasite?

[Silvermist80]

Hello all,

So Colin's suggestion of salt to treat Columnaris worked. I have very little left of my guppy stock. The babies I had that were born shortly before the big die off, have a few issues. I think maybe these are a prolapse, maybe from parasites? I'm treating with General Cure currently. Since there's so many, I dunno if it's genetic or from parasites. Anyone have any input or ideas? It's not a big emergency, they've had it for awhile. Some have beautiful color, so I was hoping there's something I can do for them.

 

[Colin_T]

Sorry op, I'm about to do my nut. You might want to look the other way.

I wish people wouldn't just add anti-biotics to tanks when they don't know what the problem is. Here we go again, yes I'm gonna say my usual.

Anti-biotics should only be used as a last resort on known bacterial infections that have not responded to normal treatments. Improper use and mis-use of anti-biotics has lead to drug resistant bacteria that kill people, animals, birds, fish and reptiles.

Please people, just because anti-biotics are available from your local pet shop, it doesn't mean you have to use them. Please, find out what the problem is before adding any medication.

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In this case, the prolapse intestine is caused by inbreeding and too much dry food. Basically part of the fish's intestine pops out of their butt. Sometimes it goes back in by itself, and other times it stays out. If it stays out the fish usually dies a few days to a week later.

Feeding livebearers like guppies, platies, swordtails and mollies with lots of plant matter will help reduce this problem. Buying fish that come from unrelated parents will also help prevent this problem.

This is not caused by a disease organism and is mostly a genetic issue, with an incorrect diet.

 

[Silvermist80]

Sorry op, I'm about to do my nut. You might want to look the other way.

I wish people wouldn't just add anti-biotics to tanks when they don't know what the problem is. Here we go again, yes I'm gonna say my usual.

Anti-biotics should only be used as a last resort on known bacterial infections that have not responded to normal treatments. Improper use and mis-use of anti-biotics has lead to drug resistant bacteria that kill people, animals, birds, fish and reptiles.

Please people, just because anti-biotics are available from your local pet shop, it doesn't mean you have to use them. Please, find out what the problem is before adding any medication.

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In this case, the prolapse intestine is caused by inbreeding and too much dry food. Basically part of the fish's intestine pops out of their butt. Sometimes it goes back in by itself, and other times it stays out. If it stays out the fish usually dies a few days to a week later.

Feeding livebearers like guppies, platies, swordtails and mollies with lots of plant matter will help reduce this problem. Buying fish that come from unrelated parents will also help prevent this problem.

This is not caused by a disease organism and is mostly a genetic issue, with an incorrect diet.

Sorry I asked lol. Just so you know, General Cure, aka Metranidazole is mainly used as an antihelminthic. I studied the drug in depth in Vet Tech school. Also, there is no antibiotic resistance if the drug is used as directed and not completed early. That is where the resistance occurs. If done for the full treatment, the bacteria do not survive. I do feed my guppies, especially the young ones, fresh food. I give them baby brine shrimp, and when big enough, I give them blood worms and brine shrimp. People shouldn't just assume I'm feeding incorrectly because my baby guppies have this issue. None of the other guppies have it except for the fry, so I believe it's genetic. I did not inbreed them myself, but I have no clue the bloodlines used by breeders that supply stores. I did read that intestinal parasites can cause a prolapse, thus why I treated the way I did. I'm happy to report one of them has almost lost their prolapse. The other three I hope can pull through, but not much I can do otherwise apparently.

 

[Silvermist80]

Also, these fish are 4 months old or so, so they've lived with this for quite awhile. There's four fry that have it, out of about 30 total.

 

[Colin_T]

The inbreeding occurs in Asia at the fish farms. They grab two fish they want to breed and breed them. The fish you buy at shops are usually related too.

General Cure contains Metronidazole and Praziquantel. It is the Praziquantel that treats flat worms/ tape worms. Metronidazole is normally used to treat internal protozoan and bacterial infections in people

 

[Silvermist80]

The inbreeding occurs in Asia at the fish farms. They grab two fish they want to breed and breed them. The fish you buy at shops are usually related too.

General Cure contains Metronidazole and Praziquantel. It is the Praziquantel that treats flat worms/ tape worms. Metronidazole is normally used to treat internal protozoan and bacterial infections in people

FYI, Metronidazole in pets is mainly used against parasites. It is in the antibiotic class, but it's more used for parasites and a catch-all for intestinal problems in animals.

 

[Essjay]

Metronidazole can be used to treat internal protozoan infection in fish.