Help! Goldfish back scales

[Barry Tetra]

From this thread https://www.fishforums.net/threads/what-happen-to-my-goldfish-back.456750/ The “disease” was treated. But it happened again (lower picture is before then it was treated and happened again) ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 10 do 75% daily water change for a week when I plug the filter the next day it happened again. @Colin_T @Deanasue @Byron

 

[Bub]

Not looking good. He looks to have dropsy. It isn't a disease, but its the result of another underlying issue that has caused some pretty bad damage internally. Bacterial infections usually cause it and he may have had a compromised immune system due to stress/bad water quality etc.

Its nearly impossible to treat. Most fish die, some can be saved if caught early. I've seen some use epsom salt baths and Kanaplex to try treat it. Epsom salt worked for me for a time, but didn't solve the issue entirely.

 

[Barry Tetra]

Not looking good. He looks to have dropsy. It isn't a disease, but its the result of another underlying issue that has caused some pretty bad damage internally. Bacterial infections usually cause it and he may have had a compromised immune system due to stress/bad water quality etc.

Its nearly impossible to treat. Most fish die, some can be saved if caught early. I've seen some use epsom salt baths and Kanaplex to try treat it. Epsom salt worked for me for a time, but didn't solve the issue entirely.

Is it because of the filter? Everytime he stuck “next to the filter” this happen

 

[Bub]

No. A filter won't cause dropsy. A sick fish will sometimes lie against a filter. But did you say you turned the filter off for a night? That would mean your water wasn't being filtered and the bacteria in the filter didn't have the water flowing over them. Either way, I've never had a fish survive dropsy. You can give epsom salt baths and Kanaplex a go. I usually euthanize.

 

[Barry Tetra]

No. A filter won't cause dropsy. A sick fish will sometimes lie against a filter. But did you say you turned the filter off for a night? That would mean your water wasn't being filtered and the bacteria in the filter didn't have the water flowing over them. Either way, I've never had a fish survive dropsy. You can give epsom salt baths and Kanaplex a go. I usually euthanize.

How to do epsom bath?

 

[TheTenthDoctor]

He has dropsy, it is irreversable, best thing to do now is to put him to sleep
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry

 

[FishGuest5123]

I disagree. He’s a Lionhead goldfish and they are shaped that way. I don’t see his scales sticking up but perhaps I’m going blind. That’s why it’s so important to consider the breed of fish before suggesting treatment or especially, euthanasia. Do As I told you last week. Cover the intake valve with a panty hose. A healthy fish really shouldn’t be getting sucked in but I know your other one did. It’s either that or a bacterial infection to which you can treat. Can we get a pic of your filter?

Note: pic of Lionhead

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Is your filter a HOB, under-gravel, or internal? What are your water parameters?

Is he always at the bottom, or has he just started doing that?

 

[Essjay]

I don’t see his scales sticking up

The middle photo of the three does look very much as though his scales are sticking up, though it's not as clear in the first and third.

 

[Barry Tetra]

I disagree. He’s a Lionhead goldfish and they are shaped that way. I don’t see his scales sticking up but perhaps I’m going blind. That’s why it’s so important to consider the breed of fish before suggesting treatment or especially, euthanasia. Do As I told you last week. Cover the intake valve with a panty hose. A healthy fish really shouldn’t be getting sucked in but I know your other one did. It’s either that or a bacterial infection to which you can treat. Can we get a pic of your filter?

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Definitely looks like it’s scales are sticking up. What is that filter? I can’t remember the same of it.

Is it a canister filter?

 

[Barry Tetra]

Definitely looks like it’s scales are sticking up. What is that filter? I can’t remember the same of it.

Is it a canister filter?

Internal filter

 

[Barry Tetra]

Definitely looks like it’s scales are sticking up. What is that filter? I can’t remember the same of it.

Is it a canister filter?

Can nitrate 10 make fish sick?

 

[Barry Tetra]

The middle photo of the three does look very much as though his scales are sticking up, though it's not as clear in the first and third.

The scales are normal for lionhead goldfish.

 

[FishGuest5123]

Oh gosh, the last pic you sent does show his scales pineconing. I’m afraid the group is right. He needs to be euthanized. I’m sorry.