Heater Burn Death?

[Teelie]

I found this one, one of my older males a few minutes ago and knew almost right off he was dead. Pulling him out confirmed it. I took the best photos I could before disposing of his body and I'm hoping this is just a bad case of touching the heater and not a disease. No one else has any kind of injuries I can see so I'm hoping this is the only one though some of the others do appear to be a little lethargic of late.

 

[WILDER]

It looks like septicemia to me i'm afraid, sorry for your loss, R.I.P Not the writer of this information below.


Symptoms:

Fish may have reddening at fin bases, blood streaks throughout the fins and body, small hemorrhages around the eyes. Dull listless behavior and lack of appetite may also be present.



Cause:

Systemic bacterial infection caused by various bacteria, including Aeromonas, Pseudomonas and Vibrio. The illness is often brought on by poor water quality or as a result of parasitic infestations or other infections. These bacteria enter the blood stream and circulate through the tissues causing inflammation and damage. Inflamed blood vessels in the skin and at fin bases stand out. Blood vessel and heart tissue damage cause hemorrhaging and consequently leakage of body fluids into the abdomen, which may lead to Dropsy.



Treatment:

Water conditions must be improved for all fish in the tank, regardless of how many fish are infected. Check your water’s Treat with Kanacyn or Tetracycline as well as with a medicated food if the fish will eat. If parasites are suspected, all the fish in the tank should be treated with antiparasitic medication. Using salt to help restore osmotic balance might be helpful.




Not the wrier of this information either.

Septicemia- A condition where bacteria gains entry into the fish's body through wounds or the stomach. The bacteria can cause failure of the internal organs, damage to body tissue, blood vessels, and result in recognizable symptoms. This often results in internal bleeding, due to the fluids filling the fish's abdomen. Dropsy may occur as a result. The problem with this type of situation is that the bacteria is present inside the fish and safe from the antibiotics you would place in the water. It could be the result of another infection or caused from dirty water. Symptoms: Clamped fins, bulging eyes, red bellies, eroding, reddened fins, lack of appetite, and fish showing signs of being sluggish or exhibiting sluggish behavior. Treatment: It is best to feed the fish antibiotics rather than using the kinds you place directly into the water. Placing the ill fish in a hospital tank is advised while administering treatment. Check your local petstore for some good medicated food or check for antibiotics if necessary. Septicemia is fatal if not treated immediately! top

 

[Teelie]

That's what I was afraid of but the water quality should be good, I even did a water change just a few days ago. I have extra filtration as well. It might be from the bloodworms I fed them yesterday though.

Looks like a trip to the store tomorrow for antimedication treatment.

 

[WILDER]

Corys are very prone to bacterial infections plus septicemia sorry.

 

[Teelie]

Yeah I know but before now the only problem I had was finrot on two Pandas I sucessfully treated. I never get diseases so it's a bit of a shock and disappointment. Not to mention losing one of my oldest cories.

 

[Mr.September15]

What do you do with the bloodworms to make sure it doesnt have bacteria? Boil it?

 

[Teelie]

It's normally kept frozen and only thawed to feed. I don't know if the bloodworms were it but nothing else has come to mind as a culprit.

 

[Mr.September15]

It's normally kept frozen and only thawed to feed. I don't know if the bloodworms were it but nothing else has come to mind as a culprit.

I use the hikari brand bloodworms. Is that safe?

-Arrowhead...

 

[nicklfire]

hey dude,

I got septicema or whatever right now currently on my bala shark, the conditions for me are reddish scales such as you have... but not as bad and my shark has red blood veins going through all the fins which are very noticable. What i'm doing for treatment right now are disolved tablets the medication is called Erythromycin which is actually the same treatment as humans take.

keep a watch on the other fish for the same infection

 

[Teelie]

I just did a check on them now and the ones I can see look okay but I'm still going to the shop to buy some Maracyn II later today. It worked great on finrot and is supposed to treat scept too.

 

[WILDER]

If it's a bad case of finrot it can lead to septicemia, not the writer of this information below.


Fin Rot



Symptoms:

Fish may have deteriorating fins, often with red or white edges. Secondary Fungal infections often occur.



Cause:

Bacterial infection caused by Aeromonas and/or Pseudomonas bacteria often precipitated by poor water quality, low water temperatures, or a combination of both.



Treatment:

You will first want to determine the specific cause of the illness, so check your water’s quality Ammonia, Nitrite, pH, and Nitrate levels as well as the temperature. Be sure to provide optimal water conditions and the correct water temperature for the species of fish you are keeping. Treat with Kanacyn, Tetracycline, Furacyn, Nitrofura-G or Penicillin. Basically, you want an antibiotic specific for Aeromonas and Pseudomonas bacteria. The use of a medicated food is also wise. Treat the fish in isolation (i.e., quarantine tank) if only one fish is sick. If not, the whole tank should be treated. In either case, water conditions must be improved and proper temperature maintained for all fish. Adding salt to the water may be helpful.

The success rate for treating Fin Rot is good providing the illness is caught early and water conditions are kept optimal. Left untreated this infection can be deadly. Early treatment is essential! Once treated, fin tissue lost to this illness will grow back providing the fin rays and/or fin bases have not been damaged.

 

[Teelie]

The finrot was months ago, and on Pandas which recovered fast, and none of the albinos caught it. If it was still in there, it would have been noticable by this point.

 

[WILDER]

Might of not got rid of the infection totally, and it kicks starts again when a fish comes under stress, and corys are prone to bacteria infections, i maintain my tanks twice a week, as corys need very clean gravel or they get infections off the bottom of the tank.

 

[Teelie]

Well, as I said, I almost never get disease so it's kind of shocking that one caught it. I've kept some of these fish going on 4 years now and none of them ever caught anything. Now I've had finrot and septicema within a few months. Luckily there has only been the one casuality.

I'm upgrading them to a 55 gallon within the next two or three months from a 30 too so that should provide them with an even bigger space to relax in. Right now things are slightly cramped but not dangerously or anything. That's my other concern, giving them a larger tank. This will be almost twice the swimming space.

 

[WILDER]

Good luck.