Hamsters

[demonmagus]

hamish and harry =

 

[Betta_luver]

Very cute robos but watch the bananas sometimes it can get stuck in their cheekpouches

I am glad to see more hammie lovers.

 

[lym]

I'm a hamster addict too, so much that I even have my own website called Hamster Heaven I even have a webcam where you watch a couple of my hamsters.

At the moment I own 11 hamsters, I have had about 25 at the same time at one point. I currently own:

3 Syrian
2 Campbell's
4 Winter White
2 Roborovski

I've owned at least 50+ over the 5 years of owning them.

 

[LisaLQ]

I've kept both hammies and rats and can safely say......hammies lose out on personality and handleability. Rats are miles easier to care for, easier to handle, easier to tame, and therefore easier to clean out and care for

So betta - if you dont have any experience with rats, how can you say all that stuff about them? Of course bigger cages are more expensive, but if you cant afford a big cage - you wont have a chance of affording vets bills for even your hammies. Costs are part of pet ownership, you cant say you're getting a smaller pet because you dont need to take them to the vets as much, as that's nonsense. I've got rats here who've never needed to see a vet in their life, yet my hammie broke his leg and needed expensive vets fees. Rats see the vets more...what a load of crap.

If anyone sounds stupid, it's the person slagging off something they have no knowledge of!

 

[pica_nuttalli]

i second what Lisa says, but boy you sound grouchy today! hugs?

 

[Betta_luver]

I've kept both hammies and rats and can safely say......hammies lose out on personality and handleability. Rats are miles easier to care for, easier to handle, easier to tame, and therefore easier to clean out and care for

So betta - if you dont have any experience with rats, how can you say all that stuff about them? Of course bigger cages are more expensive, but if you cant afford a big cage - you wont have a chance of affording vets bills for even your hammies. Costs are part of pet ownership, you cant say you're getting a smaller pet because you dont need to take them to the vets as much, as that's nonsense. I've got rats here who've never needed to see a vet in their life, yet my hammie broke his leg and needed expensive vets fees. Rats see the vets more...what a load of crap.

If anyone sounds stupid, it's the person slagging off something they have no knowledge of!

A little witchy are we?

I can say that because I can! My OPINION! Ever heard of it? Guess not. Every rat owner I have talked to, besides a few such as your self, says rats often need to go to the vet more often they just do. I am just passing on their word. Your right I don't own rats that does not mean that I cannot pass on my opinion. I never said that I could not afford it so stop making yourself seem like an idiot. I said that rats are more expensive then hamsters! I am NOT dissing rats. I love everything about them but I wasn't aloud to get them unless they never left their cage. Thats cruel I know! But my parents hate rats it would have been cruel to bring them into my home if they had to live in their cage 24/7.

It is sh*tty that you think I can't afford anything. I make $600.00 a month. I never said that I don't take my hamster to the vet. I take them every 6 months for a check-up. I would do the same if I had rats. My mouse will also recieve checkups. Does that seem like a soemthing a bad owner would do?

So Lisa if you hate hamsters fine! Stay away from the ppl who do love them! You obvisily have nothing better to do then to dis people and animals. Perhaps try taking up a hobby. You must of had some cranky hamster or somthing if you hate them so.

Also I never said that Goldfishattentionspan was stupid I said that what she said about vampire hamsters was stupid. Please, Lisa, Learn to read EVERYTHING not just what you want to hear.

 

[LisaLQ]

Dearie me, and there was me thinking perhaps my tone was a bit off, I'd actually come back to apologise til I read that explosion of a rant from you there - by heck, god help me if I really said half the stuff you think I did lol.

Sweetheart, I never meant "you" as in you personally. I said it in the same way the queen says "one". As in "If one cant afford a cage, one cant afford vet care, and one shouldn't have a pet".

Not you. Didn't need to know your bank balance, didn't need to know your life story, didn't need the reaction you just gave.

I speak from experience of both. I never said I hated hamsters. Far from it - I think they're lovely - but they're just not easily handleable enough for me and my kids. They take far more taming. Also I like the way you can keep rats in groups, which isn't possible with syrians.

Saying rats are more expensive is just plain odd - can you explain further? Yes some rats may have health issues, but so may some hamsters, and some cats, and some dogs, and some fish, and some lesser spotted bullfrogs (hey, play with me here, I'm making them up now) - bedding wise they need the same things, cage wise is much of a muchness - some of the hammie cages nowadays are tonnes more expensive than larger rat ones. And there's second hand. I will conceed that they are more of a commitment though - as you have to take time to give rats out time and people time, and they need to be in pairs or groups - but it doesn't make it any harder to care for them.

I just dont understand your need to slag off rats when you dont have any experience with them - I've had experience with both, kept both - owned them myself, not just heard via word of mouth. I personally think rats are easier to care for as they're much easier to tame, more suitable as first time pets for young kids, and therefore easier to keep clean and healthy. 99% of your pet shop hammies are bitey. 99% of your pet shop rats are not well tamed, but take to it very easily as they're not as prone to biting. If a kid had a choice of a hammie and a rat, and they picked the hammie and it bit them - 9 times out of 10 that kid isnt going to be as keen to get it back out and try handling again. As it's less likely with a rat, it means they have more chance of a successful pet. Even more so if they skip the pet shop and go to a good breeder or a rescue who take the time to handle their rats.

I wouldn't have replied on this thread if you weren't spouting such nonsense - perhaps best to keep your opinions to yourself if they're not backed by fact. I've kept rats for many years now - and only been bitten once, and that was my fault. I've had 3 hammies in the past, and every one of them bit me first time I went in the cage. One grew up to be lovely and hand tame, the other two were evil little gits. Didn't stop me loving them, but it put me off considering them again for a pet that my kids could handle

Maybe my tone was off in my last post - but like I said, if you hadn't been spouting rubbish, I wouldn't have posted at all. Now I'm off to huggle my bitey nasty smelly expensive hard to care for rats, you know - the ones that are licky, healthy, cuddly and happy in their cheap cage!

i second what Lisa says, but boy you sound grouchy today! hugs?

I'm always grouchy lol - I did think that all afternoon after posting, and came back to apologise, then read the above message and thought - sod that for a lark lol.

Yes please to hugs, and ta for the flower - I'll go get a vase....

 

[Betta_luver]

Sorry for being rude but I haven't had a good day and it was just the last straw, sorry.

When I said that rats were more expensive I found that for all the supplies that I would have needed it was going to cost me like 500 bucks but my hams only cost me like 100 bucks (those really expensive hamsters cage are sometimes to small anyways).

I have only had one hamster that bit me like crazy but he was just territorial of his cage.

Like I said I am not trying to dis rats in anyway. I really do love them. I know that they are usually much more friendly but I still love my hamsters.

I can state my opinion though it is not fact it is just that opinion. Now lets not talk about this anymore and just leave this topic for what it was started for please and thanks.