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Guppy Experts Needed!

simon24

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Two days ago i decided to get some more guppies for my lonely and widow guppy. I went to the petshop looking for 2 females and 1 male but i accidentally bought 2 males and 2 females. So now i have 3 females and 2 males in my tank. I know that the ratio should be
2f : 1m but is my guppy ratio dangerous to my guppy community? 
 
2. One of my female that i just bought is already pregnant. The 2 males are really into mating and they also try to mate with the the pregnant guppy, is the mating going to harm the fry in her belly in any way? 
 
3. My widow guppy (the old one) has been alone for a couple of months. She has never delivered fry and now i kind of hope that she will get pregnant. However she is not physically really good, compared to the new guppies she is skinnier, her spine is a little bit curved, she is not as energetic as the others, she rests sometimes at the bottom of the tank. She's kind of a lonely wolf and when a fish swims near her she is like " Don't you dare touch me!!!!" and scares the fish away. Her swimming abilities are good but not excellent and her appetite is acceptable her response is not as good as the others. However there is no sign of diseases. What is wrong with her? Is she just gonopodium thirsty or just got older?  I just put a pitch of salt in the tank and fed the guppies some peas to prevent a bladder disease or some sort of infection. 

Additional information:
Cycled tank
Good water quality 
6-7 gallons
Daily/ once a week, water changes 
Feeding frequency, once every day. 
  
 
2:1 is ideal, but you still have more female than male so it's not too big a deal.  You can always pick up another girl later if you really want to.  I don't think the male attention is going to harm any babies one bit.  Just gotta worry about after they are born!
 
BelldandyShanny said:
2:1 is ideal, but you still have more female than male so it's not too big a deal.  You can always pick up another girl later if you really want to.  I don't think the male attention is going to harm any babies one bit.  Just gotta worry about after they are born!
I agree.  But the female will be fine.  And also with the fry, they wont be hurt if a male tries to mate with her.  
 
As for you "widowed female"  she is probably an older guppy.  She can still give birth and sometimes it takes time for a female to warm up to the tank males.  I bought a male guppy for my females, some really liked him and others hated him and ran so they never got pregnant by him. (one other older male) 
 
Ideal ratio is 2:1 but as stated, there are currently more females than males so you should be okay for now. As for your pregnant one, my only concern would be if the males badger her to much she could come into harm fro stress, but the male themselves wont hurt her should they "connect" with her. Keep an eye on her and should you notice her behavior change or notice that she is hiding a lot more or just in general looking ill, i would remove her to a tank of her own while she awaits her babies.
 
SimpleDog said:
Ideal ratio is 2:1 but as stated, there are currently more females than males so you should be okay for now. As for your pregnant one, my only concern would be if the males badger her to much she could come into harm fro stress, but the male themselves wont hurt her should they "connect" with her. Keep an eye on her and should you notice her behavior change or notice that she is hiding a lot more or just in general looking ill, i would remove her to a tank of her own while she awaits her babies.
I also agree with this.  Some females can get stressed out by this while others don't.  Some people don't think so are they are just animals, but I believe fish have different personalities.  I have had two different golden algae eaters are there personalities are totally different! My previous one was a male, but he was very shy and didn't really "hang out" with the other fish.  My new one however is also a male, he is much younger, but is more aggressive, but he does like to be with the other fish.  I also have two loners that were at a pet store alone.  One had a companion I brought with me, but it soon died because of being sick.  However the left over fish and the loner fish became friends. They are always close to each other, I had to take out one and put it in its own tank because I was worried it could be sick, however he is fine now and when I put him back in the tank the two met each other and have followed one another ever since.
 
Sorry a little off topic, but that was just to show some fish can react totally different than how another would.   :)
 
bluesword23516 said:
 
Ideal ratio is 2:1 but as stated, there are currently more females than males so you should be okay for now. As for your pregnant one, my only concern would be if the males badger her to much she could come into harm fro stress, but the male themselves wont hurt her should they "connect" with her. Keep an eye on her and should you notice her behavior change or notice that she is hiding a lot more or just in general looking ill, i would remove her to a tank of her own while she awaits her babies.
I also agree with this.  Some females can get stressed out by this while others don't.  Some people don't think so are they are just animals, but I believe fish have different personalities.  I have had two different golden algae eaters are there personalities are totally different! My previous one was a male, but he was very shy and didn't really "hang out" with the other fish.  My new one however is also a male, he is much younger, but is more aggressive, but he does like to be with the other fish.  I also have two loners that were at a pet store alone.  One had a companion I brought with me, but it soon died because of being sick.  However the left over fish and the loner fish became friends. They are always close to each other, I had to take out one and put it in its own tank because I was worried it could be sick, however he is fine now and when I put him back in the tank the two met each other and have followed one another ever since.
 
Sorry a little off topic, but that was just to show some fish can react totally different than how another would.  
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I appreciate your indepth response to mine :) I'm still learning about tropicals as well and a lot of my statement was what I learned from african and south american cichlids lol. Good to hear that I wasnt offbase with my assumption that a pregnant guppy would react similarly.
 
if you do not have a 3rd tank you will have to get one for the baby fry
 
 guppies can take a wide temperatur range of 68f-80f many people seem to keep them at high temperatures. lower temperatures are far better for guppies. At the lower temperatures guppies can be kept and will happily breed as low as 68f without any issues they do very well when kept between 70f-74f guppies are not too fussy about water quality a weekly water change of 40 to 50% suits then fine. To keep Guppies at their very best a good quality flake foods. and should be fed live foods
 
Im sorry, When my guppies would die, they would usually kind of float.  And its like their tails being heavy.  If she was old she could have just died. 
 

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