Guppies Dying

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Any advice about guppies dying? We've had two lots, the first about two months ago and the second last week. Of each set we've only had one left within a week of getting them, and now the remaining one from the original set seems to be dying today. All our other fish are fine (mollies and platys), including all the babies. Water tests have been fine. Temperature of water seems fine. Done regular water changes (20% every fortnight) and de-chlorinated the new water we've put back in. What's wrong?
 
That's the problem with guppies not much go in them any more, could be bacterial infections or internal parasites, are there fins raggy when buying them, also what does it look like when the fish goes to the toilet.
 
They are seemed the picture of health and certainly the fins were not broken or ragged. The ones who died this last week seemed to have lost balance and seemed sleepy. If we tapped the tank they seemed to 'wake up'. Is this the swim bladder? Why haven't any of the other fish died? We have about 10 very small molly fry and 4 platys or varying ages (between 2 months and 2 wks) and they are all fine. Can't say I've seen any problem with their toilet habits.
 
If they couldn't maintain there balance yes it does sound like swim bladder due to poor diet and to many dried foods, not the writer of this information below, try some shelled peas to clear them through.

Swim Bladder Disorder



The Swim bladder is a gas-filled sac located inside the fish’s body cavity just above most of the other internal organs. This sac is what gives the fish buoyancy and controls equilibrium. The amount of gas in this sac changes as the fish rises and sinks in the water, enabling it to swim, hover and move in the water. Without the use of the Swim-bladder organ a fish is unable to control it's own movements.



Symptoms:

Fish with a swim bladder disorder appear to have an abnormal swimming pattern, usually with their tail end up. They also appear to have difficulty maintaining equilibrium. They may even float upside down or appear to be stuck at the surface of the water, being unable to swim down, or they may lie on the bottom, unable to rise. Fish with a swim bladder disorder will continue to try and feed, showing a normal appetite.



Cause:

The most common cause of swim bladder disorders is improper diet. An improper diet can lead to intestinal gas or intestinal blockages. Intestinal blockages can irritate the bowel, giving bacteria or other parasites an entry point where they can then cause damage to the swim bladder. Swim bladder disorders are most common in the larger, deep-bodied varieties of Goldfish. Fish also fed a lot of dried foods, especially pellets, are most susceptible. This condition is frequently observed in the later stages of Malawi Bloat, which is primarily due to an improper diet as well and intestinal irritation.



Treatment:

Because this disorder is due principally to an improper diet, a change in their feeding needs to be made. Dried foods with lots of protein should be kept to a minimum. Pellets and other dense foods should be soaked prior to feeding or completely eliminated from their diet. Foods with lots of fiber should be introduced, such as zucchini, squash, spinach, romaine lettuce, peas, and grated carrots. If you suspect that the fish is victim to a bacterial infection, treat the fish with a medicated food.
 
Thanks for the info; will see how we go - only one guppy left. Think we'll stick to mollies and platys - seem to be fairly invincible!!
 
Plenty of veg in there diet it fetches there colours out too, peas,broc savoy cabbage, carrots, sproats, lettuce cumcumba, and frozen foods like bloodworms, brimstrimp. daphnia, and livebearers love algae tablets.
 
Plenty of veg in there diet it fetches there colours out too, peas,broc savoy cabbage, carrots, sproats, lettuce cumcumba, and frozen foods like bloodworms, brimstrimp. daphnia, and livebearers love algae tablets.

Yea, my Platys eat my Corys algea discs. Yea, try the peas to, I feed my platys peas 3 times a week, and they look really healthy and colorful. Just boil them for a few minutes, pop it out of the shell, break it into pieces they can easily eat, and then feed it to them. It may take a few feeding to get them to eat it, but you could just give them a fast one day, then they'll eat it the next day because they're hungry.
 
Sorry for delay in replying; Christmas shopping! Thanks for all this advice; I'll try your suggestions.

PS: The guppy seems fit and well today and swimming about like normal, so not sure what was wrong with it yesterday. The other remaining guppy is still okay - so fingers crossed it'll stay that way.

I'm off to boil peas!
 
Probably could of been constipated as it can show the same signs as swim bladder, good luck.
 
Note that swimbladder does not have to be caused by poor diet; this is just one of several causes. Another common cause is bacterial infection, for which you would want to treat with medicine. If this is the case, feeding peas will probably not cure it though it may alleviate the symptoms. But if your guppy has suddenly recovered, it probably was constipated.
 

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