Gouramis And Killifish

tarheel

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need to know because the lfs just got a bunch of golden killie's in and sellin then for $2, I was unsure if I can put one of these in my 20G planted tank with 1dwarf gourami, 5 neon tetra's and a clown loach

not sure if the two are compatable
 
I'm sure you know already but clown loaches are social fish which should be in groups and need a 90 gallon tank, ultimately, as they grow to about a foot in length. They're not the fish for a 20 gallon.

By golden killie I would assume you mean Aplochelus Lineatus. I don't know much about killies but I do know that this particular one, while apparently very adaptable, hardy and quite peaceful, does preffer to have a slightly brackish environment (which your clown loach won't like and probably not the gourami or neons either) and also happens to grow to 4" (males) or 3.5" (females) so, considering it eats small fish readily, wouldn't make a good tankmate for those neons :p

What I'm basicaly saying is that, while it may have worked with dwarfs (in a slightly larger tank because both occupy the upper layers so would be in competition for space), it's not realy compatible and certainly won't work for the neons ;)
 
Thanks for the advice and BTW my clown loaches are 1.5" currently 1 have two. and I plan to give them to my brother when they get larger. so right now I have a total of 10 inches of fish. 2 inch dwarf gourami, if the dwarf gets to 4inches that makes 9inches without the clowns, I just wondered about the killies cause I have never seen them in a store before. I seems like no matter what question you ask on here if you don't have a friggin 300G tank you get the same answer...YOUR OVERSTOCKED!!!, and a bit of sarcasm to boot. Thanks for advice but it is things like this that keep us newbie's frustrated.
 
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that I was being sarcastic from - that was not my intention.

I'm realy sorry you feel that way but, like I said before, whilst most people do know that they have fish that'll need bigger tanks later on, many don't. I think it's far better for some of you 'newbies' to feel frustrated than for fish to be crowded in tiny tanks just because people who could have told you what was wrong were to worried about how you would react.

I should also point out that I did not say you were over-stocked - I figured that, like most people, you'd have upgraded for your clowns if they were large. They do grow very slowly. I simply wanted to warn you (incase you didn't know already) of the fact that they need to be in larger tanks and that they are social (of course, I had no way of knowing that you actualy have 2 seeing as you mentioned only one in your original post).

However, if what you were reffering to was my comment about the killies needing a bigger tank - that's not due to overstocking. That's because both they and the dwarf like spending time in the upper layers of the tank and, in a 20 gallon, that space is quite limmited so they are quite likely to fight over territory despite both species being relatively peaceful fish. While that fighting wouldn't necessarily be particularly violent, it would cause both a good bit of stress. With dwarf gouramies in particular, that can be a huge problem and can lead to serious internal infections and death. The way I see it, your dwarf gourami, seeing as you already have him, is your priority (as is the case with those neons which would get eaten eventualy).

While I appreciate that some people are more upfront about what they mean to say than others, I think you also need to realise that, at least for the most part, people don't just randomly say 'YOU'RE OVERSTOCKED'. I know that, at least in my case, when I tell people there's an issue with their stocking, I don't do it because I get a kick out of making people feel bad or because I don't want them to keep fish - I say it because I love fishkeeping and I'd love for other people to get the same enjoyment out of it - but not in the fish' expense. Hopefuly you'll udnerstand that and forgive me if I did happen to sound particularly harsh before - though I assure you that was not what I was trying to do.

BTW, dwarf gouramies don't grow to 4". They reach a max. of around 2".
 
sylvia,

I would like to appologize for my rantings earlier, I know you were just trying to help. I just misunderstood your wording as is easy to do when you have no expression and only text to go on. The important thing is that all your advice is accurate and you did help to answer my question which I appreciate. guess I'll just have to pass up the killie's or get another tank :drool: , I just have never seen them in my LFS and got excitied. thanks again for your help.

sorry Im an idiot
 
Lol - you're not an idiot - I do realise that things can be misunderstood over the internet. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trying to put you down or anything and that most people are the same - they're just trying to help :) Anyway, don't worry about it - and go for that new tank!:p
 

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