Glass Shrimp?

[fidjet2]

Hey again,
I was wondering if glass shrimp would be compatable with 3 cory's ( i know, i am getting 3 more as soon as i can but they look happy with themselves, but i will up the numbers when i can) 15 neon tetra's and 1 flame dwarf gourami.
The website i have found them on only sell them in a pack of 10 or more.... so i wasn't quite sure
The other option is a few cherry shrimp?? but i am not sure if any of my fish would eat them

thanks

edit- oops my tank size is 90l by the way

 

[swanseastilo]

My corys have never touched a shirmp. the neons may attemp to but mine always failed. im not sure about the gourami i guess if it fits in his mouth then he will

 

[fidjet2]

Haha thanks i think i might try as i have an algae problem that i am hating -.- plus they are so cute will have to convince parents for money first

how many and what type do you think?? i only have glass or cherry in australia- that i can find

 

[swanseastilo]

What do you prefer?? I DONT think they will do much for algae.
Me id get cherry nice bit of colour.

 

[steve1]

ive got 2 glass shrimps in my tank at the moment and nothing bothers them at all, plus they are pretty big aswell compared too what you see in the shop's, probs bigger then my neon's lol

 

[Baccus]

If your getting some glass shrimp from Livefish (I know they sell them in packs of 10) a lot of people have said they have ended up with a couple of odd coloured glass shrimp in the packs, they could be an interesting addition to a tank. Since what ever shrimp you get (glass or cherry) will most likely not be full grown I would grow them in a seperate small tank or similar until they are full grown, and they have had a chance to naturally multiply. I can almost guarantee that the gouramis will snack on the shrimp (my sparkling gouramis mostly only manage the small shrimp, but bigger gourmais will have no problems with even adult cherry or glass shrimp), because of the chance of predation I would personally go with the glass, simply because any bright red shrimp will be like a beacon to any fish that can fit it in its mouth and eventually you could end up with all pale shrimp any way. Also make sure you have some dense plantlife to help hide the shrimp from attack. I have some cherry shrimp and larger unidentified native shrimp in with black neon tetras, some young golden tetras, strebia corydoras, adult and offspring bristlenoses as well as some Pakastani loaches, the cory's and bristle noses I know wont eat the shrimp but the shrimp still have a thick patch of Java moss and elodea that they can get right into away from the fish.

Depending on where you are in Australia you can find some amazing shrimp in your own local creeks, just try to avoid the macrobrachium species they get huge and I have seen some types snatch fish swimming past and eat them. Personally I would love to find Rifle shrimp in my area (amazing filter feeding shrimp), we also have our own type of chameleon shrimp in Australia which is sold through certain online aquarium places, we also have Red nosed shrimp from up around Darwin (also sold at at least one commercial native plant and fish site) and my personal favourite that I am in the process of aquiring North Queensland Zebra Shrimp.

 

[fidjet2]

thanks all

Baccus-
the only other tank i have at the moment is a 30L that has no lights, so i am not sure if shrimp need much light?? I have got a filter for it that has mature media and sitting in the tank i have at the moment running.
I am down south so not sure about any nice shrimp around here, i fail at that kind of stuff

Yeah it was livefish so i might have a go at the glass if i cannot find anything else

The tank i have has dwarf hair grass all along the back which is slowely spreading around the back, then a large piece of driftwood with a plant i forget the name of
I have got a barrel ornament that i could try and attach some moss to it.
Thanks again

 

[Baccus]

If worst came to worst for a light you could always get one of those study lamps with the bendy neck part, true it wont be a real growth light but it will give plants enough light to grow by. My good pet shop often has tank lights of all sorts of sizes, some for a little as $20.

Down south you should find rifle shrimp, just depends on how far south you are.

 

[fidjet2]

I will probably try and get a lamp then, should there be a certain wattage??

I live in adelaide

 

[Baccus]

Depending on the size vessel that your using for the shrimp I would only go with a 40 or 60 watt bulb as they can get pretty warm (I use one for raising orphaned birds), so hopefully going with a lower wattage not only will you use less power but the water also wont start to over heat. Don't know about Adelaide but QLD and parts of NSW has been having shocking heat so over heating water can become a real problem.

 

[fidjet2]

Depending on the size vessel that your using for the shrimp I would only go with a 40 or 60 watt bulb as they can get pretty warm (I use one for raising orphaned birds), so hopefully going with a lower wattage not only will you use less power but the water also wont start to over heat. Don't know about Adelaide but QLD and parts of NSW has been having shocking heat so over heating water can become a real problem.

The tank i was going to use is 30L so about 40 watt??
Adelaide is quite cold at the moment considering it is summer but i think it will start to warm up again soon, we shall see
What temperature should i put the heater on?
So i would be fine with the 10 of the glass shrimp as well?
Thanks for all of the help, now all i have to do is convince dad to lend me money

thanks again

 

[Baccus]

If the light is going to be one for around 8 hrs a day and positioned fairly close then yes I would only go for the 40W, as for the heater I personally would have it around the 22 degrees mark, the shrimp can handle hotter but warmer water carries less oxygen.

You know if you get true cherry shrimp (Neocaridina heteropoda var red) you can keep them with the Australian glass shrimp ( Paratya australiensis) you can keep them together without fear of them cross breeding. Livefish has got both types of shrimp listed under the same scientific name, which is confusing becuase I know that people have ended up with red glass shrimp as well as bluish ones and the glass shrimp that Livefish sells are our little Aussie ones, where as true Red Cherry Shrimp are not native, are not even supposed to be in the country (but are) and these too have many colour morphs occurring naturally.

Also as a substrate in the tank I would go a dark colour, it will really enhance the colour of the shrimp and even the clear glass shrimp will show up well against it.
Good luck with your shrimp, they are addictive and fun to watch.

 

[StandbySetting]

The Gourami is the only real threat and that is only to shrimplets should you buy a species that breeds in freshwater.

 

[fidjet2]

If the light is going to be one for around 8 hrs a day and positioned fairly close then yes I would only go for the 40W, as for the heater I personally would have it around the 22 degrees mark, the shrimp can handle hotter but warmer water carries less oxygen.

You know if you get true cherry shrimp (Neocaridina heteropoda var red) you can keep them with the Australian glass shrimp ( Paratya australiensis) you can keep them together without fear of them cross breeding. Livefish has got both types of shrimp listed under the same scientific name, which is confusing becuase I know that people have ended up with red glass shrimp as well as bluish ones and the glass shrimp that Livefish sells are our little Aussie ones, where as true Red Cherry Shrimp are not native, are not even supposed to be in the country (but are) and these too have many colour morphs occurring naturally.

Also as a substrate in the tank I would go a dark colour, it will really enhance the colour of the shrimp and even the clear glass shrimp will show up well against it.
Good luck with your shrimp, they are addictive and fun to watch.

Ok i will shop around for a light i also have to buy some moss off ebay first and see how that grows
how many would i be able to have of each if i mixed them?
The tank i was going to put them in has play sand i couldn't find any black sand in australia without becoming broke


StandbySetting- thank you

 

[Baccus]

My cherry shrimp (I have them in a few tanks) are on white sand - this tank has plenty of plants and some dark timber and other tank decore and these shrimp are really dark red, I have others that are on basic natural creek gravel (so well rounded and smallish), these shrimp tend to be a bit on the lighter side but it could be down to not as much plants and not so many dark ornaments. I also have some in with my male fighter and he has black fighter gravel in his tank and these ones (probably because he eats some of the shrimplets) are more orange than deep dark red. Because cherry shrimp can and will breed like crazy for a 30L tank I would just get 10 to start with and 10 glass. I am pretty sure the glass ones breed as readily as the cherry's. In a few of months or so you should have more than enough shrimp to start looking at adding them in large numbers to your other tank.
Definantly track down some java moss its the easist to grow and the shrimp do love cleaning it, they also like getting into java fern and will hang out in elodea but it doesn't seem their prefered hide out, I rarely see them on or around my anubis or Amazon Swords but then my Borneo Suckers do a good job of making sure the Amazon swords leaves are clean.
If you have a look on Livefish in the other sections they should have different coloured fighter gravel and gems that you could put in for contrast with your shrimp. The only other thing I know my shrimp love is some timber in their tank, they are always nibbling away at it. I often use old euclyptus branches that look interesting and have lost all their bark as well as bottle brush branches (same deal), or you can get some mopani wood and tie your moss to it.