Frogs Hurting The Fish?

[PlatinumAngel]

Not sure if anyone knows much about african dwarf frogs, but we've got a 10 gallon tank, recently set up, (they were in a 2 gallon plastic one we didn't like). The tanks been up for a few weeks, and we just tried to add two mollys. Well, one died after almost a week, I replaced him and then the next day the replacement and the other one died. When I replaced him, I also got two guppies, and one of them has died too.
The ammonia levels and ph levels are fine. We do weekly water changes, what's going on?
There's also this jelly like substance on the glass (I did notice it in the smaller tank too, so I know it's to do with the frogs) Is there something toxic in there? We've had a tank with one frog and other fish that were fine before.

Any suggestions?

 

[Gatorbait]

Not sure if anyone knows much about african dwarf frogs, but we've got a 10 gallon tank, recently set up, (they were in a 2 gallon plastic one we didn't like). The tanks been up for a few weeks, and we just tried to add two mollys. Well, one died after almost a week, I replaced him and then the next day the replacement and the other one died. When I replaced him, I also got two guppies, and one of them has died too.
The ammonia levels and ph levels are fine. We do weekly water changes, what's going on?
There's also this jelly like substance on the glass (I did notice it in the smaller tank too, so I know it's to do with the frogs) Is there something toxic in there? We've had a tank with one frog and other fish that were fine before.

Any suggestions?

Edit: I apologize, I misread. I thought they were african clawed frogs not dwarfs.

 

[OldMan47]

Are you sure the new frog is an african dwarf frog? If its an african clawed frog, they are very hard on fish with their claws. The two look quite similar but the ACF's claws can be seen with a close inspection.

 

[PlatinumAngel]

African clawed frogs are pretty aggressive to fish and have been known to kill them if alike in size.

The frogs aren't actually paying any attention to the fish, I'm more wondering if there could be a chemical or something in the water that's not detected by my tests.

Are you sure the new frog is an african dwarf frog? If its an african clawed frog, they are very hard on fish with their claws. The two look quite similar but the ACF's claws can be seen with a close inspection.

I'm fairly sure they're just dwarfs. I haven't seen them once go after the fish. They just hide or swim to the top for air.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

i doubt it's the frogs, guppies are notoriously weak and delicate.

is the tank newly set up? what test kit are you using? what are the results for pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate (we need the actual numbers not just 'fine')?

 

[PlatinumAngel]

i doubt it's the frogs, guppies are notoriously weak and delicate.

is the tank newly set up? what test kit are you using? what are the results for pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate (we need the actual numbers not just 'fine')?

It is newly set up. We only had one guppy die but three mollys.
I don't know the nitrate we don't have a nitrate kit.
I'm going to take a sample to our LFS and see what they say. I'll ask them to test for nitrate too and let you know what they say.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

make sure you get the actual test results from the lfs. they're terrible for just saying things are 'fine' when really they aren't. one of our memmbers did an experiment the other week about this, i'll dig up the topic.

link

 

[waterdrop]

Yes, MW is right, will be intersting to see the numbers the LFS can give you from their kit results.

Are you feeling serious about going beyond the frogs and getting into the tropical fish hobby? If so then there will be some interesting things to learn and steps to take that the members can help you with.

~~waterdrop~~

 

[PlatinumAngel]

Thanks, the nitrite and nitrate were both really high, so that was the problem. Hopefully I can get that under control and in a few weeks put some fish in there.

I have a 75 gallon too which is thriving, the 10 gallon just looks boring with just frogs.

 

[Mikaila31]

If you have a stable cycled 75gal tank you can add some mature media from the 75gal to the 10gal to help with the increased bioload. I also suggest getting a complete test kit that tests for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.