Fluval Edge - Adding Water To Tank

[fluval.edge]

Hi all,

I bought a Fluval Edge tank two weeks ago and have been running it without fish. It has been running fine but some of the water has been evaporating as my room is quite warm.

My Question = If I want to add small amounts of water to my tank to fill it to the top again, how do I go about doing it?

(Do I need to put in a little bit of medicine to get rid of the chlorine?)

Hoping you can help,

fluval.edge

 

[me499]

Hi all,

I bought a Fluval Edge tank two weeks ago and have been running it without fish. It has been running fine but some of the water has been evaporating as my room is quite warm.

My Question = If I want to add small amounts of water to my tank to fill it to the top again, how do I go about doing it?

(Do I need to put in a little bit of medicine to get rid of the chlorine?)

Hoping you can help,

fluval.edge

i have an edge myself and i always treat the water i add so in my oppinion yes, other wise the chlorine will kill the bacteria your trying to build up in your filter.

now im not an expert but one thing ive noticed with keeping fish is its allways 6 of 1 and half a dozen of another, some say yes and some say no never what are you mad

but what i have heard about cycling and it does make sense (are you ready 4 this lol)

the fish in the tank create ammonia

this then brings on nitrite (a bacteria that feeds on ammonia)

this then brings on nitrates (a bacteria that feeds on nitrites)

all 3 are toxic to fish but nitrates are nothing like as bad as the other two so it is just controlled with water changes but is still needed to keep away the other two, but the problem you have with a fishless cycle is no ammonia is introduced, =no nitrite =no nitrate. so when you add your first fish the cycle starts

so in theory sitting your tank up with no fish or store bought ammonia does nothing. in my experience just add fish and treat your water with tetra safe start and again when you water change or add fish (use a dechlorinator first or youll also kill the safe start), i had perfect water straight away and still do now.

as far as the fluval edge goes, it looks brill and i would never change it but believe me it is not the easiest tank to work with and can prove to be a real #28###. any way good luck

 

[Jonty]

You need to fishless cycle your tank

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=113861

 

[me499]

You need to fishless cycle your tank

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=113861

as i wrote in the post above i see no gain in fishless cycle's other than 24 hours to ensure everything is working correctly, i cycled my fluval the way described by every one and it took ages and i still had ammonia problems.

i then bought a second tank (110 l) treated it with tetra safe start and added about 5 fish and have never had a problem.

as i said if you dont add store bought ammonia i see no gain in a fishless cycle

 

[BethK]

See, all LFS in the UK will state that your tank needs to be running for a week before adding fish. I've done this (well for 2 weeks) with my now tank but I didn;t do it with my original first tank and both times fish survived.

nutrafin fish tank dechlorinator and Cycle and I have had no water or fish problems (touch wood).

When topping up my tank, I ad a little of both to the new ltr but only a tiny drop.

 

[me499]

See, all LFS in the UK will state that your tank needs to be running for a week before adding fish. I've done this (well for 2 weeks) with my now tank but I didn;t do it with my original first tank and both times fish survived.

nutrafin fish tank dechlorinator and Cycle and I have had no water or fish problems (touch wood).

When topping up my tank, I ad a little of both to the new ltr but only a tiny drop.

thats what i mean, i see no advantage in a fishless cycle.

 

[BethK]

I'm having a go at a non-fish cycle from today. This is only down to a few thins 1) not having the right heater for my 30ltr 2) it's a 2nd hand tank, so I want to run the filter unit etc and get any kinks out before my fish go in 3) I'm waiting for my sand substrate to be delivered, along with moss balls and other bits.

So I am guessing a week minimum and hoping levels are OK, fishies will have a slightly bigger home

 

[Jonty]

See, all LFS in the UK will state that your tank needs to be running for a week before adding fish. I've done this (well for 2 weeks) with my now tank but I didn;t do it with my original first tank and both times fish survived.

nutrafin fish tank dechlorinator and Cycle and I have had no water or fish problems (touch wood).

When topping up my tank, I ad a little of both to the new ltr but only a tiny drop.

thats what i mean, i see no advantage in a fishless cycle.

Except for not poisoning your fish? It's scientifically proven that Ammonia and Nitrite kill fish and cause them pain, and the fishless cycle produces bacteria to convert them to nitrate, and much less dangerous chemical removed by plants and water changes.

But I suppose you can use facts to prove anything

 

[me499]

See, all LFS in the UK will state that your tank needs to be running for a week before adding fish. I've done this (well for 2 weeks) with my now tank but I didn;t do it with my original first tank and both times fish survived.

nutrafin fish tank dechlorinator and Cycle and I have had no water or fish problems (touch wood).

When topping up my tank, I ad a little of both to the new ltr but only a tiny drop.

thats what i mean, i see no advantage in a fishless cycle.

Except for not poisoning your fish? It's scientifically proven that Ammonia and Nitrite kill fish and cause them pain, and the fishless cycle produces bacteria to convert them to nitrate, and much less dangerous chemical removed by plants and water changes.

But I suppose you can use facts to prove anything

i totally agree amonia and nitrate are toxic to fish and so is nitrate but but nitrate is not nearly as bad.

but your tank will not begin to cycle untill you add fish cus without them there is no amonia to feed nitrite, so no nitrites to feed nitrates.

the ammonia needs to be introduced first, there are 2 ways of doing this 1=bottled ammonia, 2=fish (which create ammonia). without it you will never get nitrates as there is nothing for them to feed on.

you could run an empty tank for 10 years and have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites and 0nitrates, but when you add your first fish your tank will then begin a cycle and your ammonia will peak and then drop off, as the ammonia is dropping off your nitrites will peak and then drop off, as your nitrites drop off your nitrates will peak, and all this will be instigated by the introduction of fish.

dont worry im not trying to teach you to suck eggs, it sounds like your a verry capable fish keeper and to be honest i am fairly new to this but the point im trying to make is that without that initial introduction of ammonia/fish the cycle will not begin and you are just wasting time.

1 thing i have noticed with keeping fish is its allways 6 of 1 and half a dozen of another and if you followed every ones advice you would have a beutifull tank and no fish.

 

[OohFeeshy]

the ammonia needs to be introduced first, there are 2 ways of doing this 1=bottled ammonia

So what's wrong with this then?

Smaller tanks especially, cycling with fish is a much less feasible option for several reasons. Partly, it's smaller, so you're going to have a greater overall biolad than with a larger tank- higher concentrations and more harm to the fish. Secondly, the type of fish people tend to keep are small fish that prefer to live in groups. Adding the whole group at a time is too much bioload for the tank, and since the group will only be 5/6 anyway it isn't really an option to only add two or three at a time, which will still be a relatively high bioload for the tank.

 

[me499]

the ammonia needs to be introduced first, there are 2 ways of doing this 1=bottled ammonia

So what's wrong with this then?

Smaller tanks especially, cycling with fish is a much less feasible option for several reasons. Partly, it's smaller, so you're going to have a greater overall biolad than with a larger tank- higher concentrations and more harm to the fish. Secondly, the type of fish people tend to keep are small fish that prefer to live in groups. Adding the whole group at a time is too much bioload for the tank, and since the group will only be 5/6 anyway it isn't really an option to only add two or three at a time, which will still be a relatively high bioload for the tank.

i would add the fish, with verry regular water changes, and use tetra safe start.