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Fluval 405

OK switched it just a few minutes ago put it up top. Put some prefilter at the second to bottom one just above the wool. So hows this sound is this right? wool then prefilter then carbon then biomax. Going to try to get a picture up today for you guys...
 
Sounds good apart from the carbon. Carbon is generally a waste of time unless you are removing medication from the water or something.

It stops working within a few days and (though I dont know if this is true) can appaerently start to leach stuf out back into the water again.

At best, it's completly not needed on a regular tank.

Would be far better using the space for more biomax, or whatever other bio media takes your fancy.
 
Sounds good apart from the carbon. Carbon is generally a waste of time unless you are removing medication from the water or something.

It stops working within a few days and (though I dont know if this is true) can appaerently start to leach stuf out back into the water again.

At best, it's completly not needed on a regular tank.

Would be far better using the space for more biomax, or whatever other bio media takes your fancy.
Agree. Carbon's primary function is as a chemical filtration media and aquarists generally leave it on the shelf until needed to remove medicatons, tannins (yellowing from bogwood) or the occasional organic smell of unknown origin. Its quite good for these purposes but as ThreeFingers says, it "adsorbs" for 3 days and then is ready to be removed and tossed in the trash.

BUT, that doesn't mean that carbon won't serve as a biological or mechanical media (the other two functions of a filter), it will, its just not optimal for them. As a mechanical it will indeed trap some debris because its a gravel-like layer and things will get trapped as the water passes through. And, more importantly, it can serve as the surface area for the 2 species of beneficial bacteria we want and will be ok at this. The main reason its not optimal is that it gradually crumbles, eventually into dust sized particals and gets taken out with water changes. So, compared to ceramic rings or ceramic pebbles, both of which last virtually forever, its not nearly as good. Sponge doesn't last as long as ceramics but is also a much better biomedia than carbon.

But anyway, since you've already been through a lot and probably don't want to get into that filter again, just thought I'd throw this out to say it won't be such a bad thing I don't think. At some later time you should begin transitioning it to a better biomedia, just not all at once.

Also, its generally a myth that carbon leaches the chemicals its "adsorbed" back out. It will simply equalize, so in extreme cases that can technically happen but as a practical matter it hardly ever does this. This was discussed in a thread in the science section by bignose.

~~waterdrop~~
 
Also, its generally a myth that carbon leaches the chemicals its "adsorbed" back out. It will simply equalize, so in extreme cases that can technically happen but as a practical matter it hardly ever does this. This was discussed in a thread in the science section by bignose.
~~waterdrop~~
Cool, now that search is working, I'll have to find that thread. I've always read people saying it leaches stuff back into the water, but have never seen an article on how something that has been adsorbed by carbon would get back into the water.
 
Hi,
I new but i have put up a thread in the newbie section regarding a fluval 405 and the media that i have put in it.
I know the 404 and the 405 are different models but i think the spec might be the same.
I do not have any experiance in this and my tank is only running for 2 weeks but 1 hour after i changed the media i noticed a big difference.
I have read alot of threads on these flters and everything that i have come across dictates to remove the carbon as it is not needed.
Hope this helps.
 

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