Fish Dying - Water Checked Nothing Wrong With It
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Chances are the deaths are to do with ammonia poisioning and your tank has now cycled but the fish have sadly sucummed over time. However chinese algae eaters/sucking loach are a "clean up" fish, and will feed on dead and dying fish not just algae. Usually around 3-4" they start getting the taste for other foods than algae and in an aquarium its sadly usually fish slime coat. Deep bodied fish like the angels and gourami would be a target the bigger it gets. These are one of the sorts of fish I am asked to re-home most often. The chances are all your fish have some degree of ammonia poisioning due to the fish in cycle, which clean water is the only answer for, but with weakened immune systems they will be a target for the algae eater, I would suggest taking that one back to the shop I am afraid.
Sorry if it looks as if you are having a bit of a hard time on this post.
Everyone here has made some good comments, they want to help you best as well as your tank stocking, they all have your best interests at heart.
Many new fish keepers into the hobby have gone the same route as you and a lot wish they hadn't, lessons learned and a big learning curve really!
I'd suggest, if you can, post a picture of this loach so we can help identify this for you.
Everyone here has made some good comments, they want to help you best as well as your tank stocking, they all have your best interests at heart.
Many new fish keepers into the hobby have gone the same route as you and a lot wish they hadn't, lessons learned and a big learning curve really!
walshy28 said:
I'd suggest, if you can, post a picture of this loach so we can help identify this for you.
Sorry you are having trouble walshy. Unfortunately it is very coming to get bad advice from a LFS. Luckily you are getting great advice here
One thing I will mention is that unless I'm doing my conversion wrong (168l = 45 US gallons right?) your tank is severely overstocked and your filtration is no where near strong enough for the load of fish you have. To make matters worse you have comparability issues. For example it is not recommended to keep Tigers and Angelfish together, especially in an overstocked tank. Plus Tiger Barbs need to be kept in groups of at least 5 or they can be very aggressive and start nipping fins.
Sorry I don't normally comment on people's stocking unless they ask but in your case I'm afraid that even if you did the testing and water change and managed to get your parameters right it will only be a matter of time before they are out of whack again. Unless you intend to upgrade your filtration and start doing large water changes every other day I would highly recommend you reassess your stocking and return or rehome some fish. Just my opinion. Best of luck and don't give up....it's a rewarding hobby!!
One thing I will mention is that unless I'm doing my conversion wrong (168l = 45 US gallons right?) your tank is severely overstocked and your filtration is no where near strong enough for the load of fish you have. To make matters worse you have comparability issues. For example it is not recommended to keep Tigers and Angelfish together, especially in an overstocked tank. Plus Tiger Barbs need to be kept in groups of at least 5 or they can be very aggressive and start nipping fins.
Sorry I don't normally comment on people's stocking unless they ask but in your case I'm afraid that even if you did the testing and water change and managed to get your parameters right it will only be a matter of time before they are out of whack again. Unless you intend to upgrade your filtration and start doing large water changes every other day I would highly recommend you reassess your stocking and return or rehome some fish. Just my opinion. Best of luck and don't give up....it's a rewarding hobby!!
I am 90% sure that is a chinese algae eater from that pic, sorry one for re-homing I am afraid Some plants will grow in gravel, it might be worth asking in the planted section, they would know better. You can get plants, java fern and anubias that will grow on rock and wood, these are the only plants I tend to use as most of my fish are avid plant eaters!
It might be worth trying to get a pic of your plec too, if its a common or gibby these guys grow and grow and grow they can potentially reach 20" or so.
Some plants will grow in gravel, it might be worth asking in the planted section, they would know better. You can get plants, java fern and anubias that will grow on rock and wood, these are the only plants I tend to use as most of my fish are avid plant eaters!It might be worth trying to get a pic of your plec too, if its a common or gibby these guys grow and grow and grow they can potentially reach 20" or so.
Most live stem plants will be ok in gravel substrate.
+1 on CAE from that pic
http
/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/98998-chinese-algae-eater/
+1 on CAE from that pic
http
/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/98998-chinese-algae-eater/
Im sorry to hear for your loss. I have too overstocked my tank and am now trying to rehome my fish, as hard as it is for me, I want to do whats best. I would say to listen to these comments on here, as they have some very helpful advice for you Good luck, all the best from me.
-Ashley
Good luck, all the best from me.-Ashley
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