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Hi all.

Am new here (obviously :rolleyes:) and have been reading a lot of good and helpful information.

I am getting a new tank and stand, from seapets.co.uk which hopefully should be arriving in the next week or so. It is a Fluval Roma 200. After reading all the information and opinions I am definitely going to be doing a fishless cycle. Not only does it seem easier and kinder to the fish but this period will take me past my forthcoming exams so hopefully by the time it is cycled I will have more time to devote to making sure my fish population settle in as much as possible. I have read the info on here about fishless cycling and think I can follow that quite easily, I am going to get a testing kit to help me out.

It is my first big tank, I do have a Bi-orb 30l which I HAD as a cold water tank until I read on the net that they are not suitable. I was quite shocked by this, I bought the Bi-orb on recommendation from my LFS along with the fish (well, I should know better than listening to people in pets at home and won't make that mistake again) plus they had a Bi-orb 30l with 4 goldfish in it on display. So we gave those fish to my uncle to put in his pond where they seem to be thriving (they were acclimatised and the like, my uncle has kept coldwater and tropical fish himself for a number of years). At the moment this is empty but I am thinking I might get a heater and start it up again and just put a little school of fish in it. I might not do this straight away though.

I have a few questions though mainly relating to the fluval as I haven't properly thought about the Bi-Orb as yet. I could probably get the answers from my uncle but am after different opinions so I can make an informed decision.

Firstly, plants. I want to use live plants but don't know if I should put these in at the start of the cycle or after the cycle? My mum said she thought at the start of the cycle would be better as it would give the plants chance to start growing and get rooted so when you put fish in they will have a harder time pulling any plants up. What do people recommend? Also, other ornaments/rocks, should these go in at the start or end of cycling?

Secondly - is gravel or sand better for live plants?

Thirdly - Fish. I know I have quite some time before I can stock the tank but I want to start thinking about what fish to put in it so I can make sure they all live well together. What recommendations do people have for a community tank?

If my calculations are correct I can have 122cm/44inches of adult size fish.

I would quite like a few bigger fish as centrepieces, I really like Angelfish, and then smaller fish. Although I am quite happy for recommendations as to what would be better for a relative newbie to the hobby setting up a community tank.

Thanks in advance for the great advice I am sure I will get form this forum and sorry about my long post. You will learn, I have a tendency to ramble in real life as well as on the net. :D
 
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Glad you have found this forum, and that you a re going to a fishless cycle, way to go! :good:

It does not matter when you want to add plants/decor, you can put them in any time you want.

Gravel is better for live plants because it allows the roots to get more nutrition, where as sand will cover up the roots.

What are the dimensions of your tank?

Once again, :hi: to the forum!

-FHM
 
The tank is 200l/44Gallons and the dimensions are:

Length 100 cm / 39 Inches
Width 40 cm / 16 Inches
Height 55.5 cm / 22 Inches
 
oh ok.. thats a very good size for angels.. although i would only do one angel.. but you could do two if you wanted.. i would seguest angels and a schol of fish like danios or some kind of large tetra.. you could always look at loaches too (they are always fun fish).. you have enough room to just start picking fish you like and checking on sizes they grow to .. in my opinion that is the best way to stock a tank that you will enjoy
 
Thanks. I thought I would be all right with 1 Angelfish. I was not sure about putting 2 in, I read on wikipedia if you have 2 one might bully the other and it is best to have 1 or 3?

Another question, the tank comes with a filter and lighting and was wondering if they are any good? They are:

Roma 200 - Fluval U4 Internal Filter, Tronic Heater 200watt
Fluval GLO lighting, one of each 30watt PowerGlo & AquaGlo.
 
The lights you have are good to grow plants, without injecting Co2 into the tank.

Use this site to help you figure out if the heater is good or not.

What is your GPH, (gallons per hour) or LPH (Liter per hour) of your filter?

-FHM
 
Thanks for that link, the heater should be fine.

I don't have the tank (or filter etc) in possession yet but according to this it's 260 GPH.
 
If you take 260/44 you get 6x turn over rate, and you want at least 5, so you are good there.

If you do decide to plant the tank with live plants, you want a closer turnover to 10x.

So, you might need to get a bigger filter, or get another filter, so you would have 2 going.

EDIT: It is not necessary to have a 10x turnover for a planted tank, but it is highly recommended. This will help reduce the change of algae growth.


-FHM
 
Thanks FHM. Some good info there.

BTW - what is the fish in your signature picture? The blue and yellow is really pretty.
 
It is a Labidochromis caeruleus Cichlid.

I think the blue was photo shopped because I never seen one with blue fins, only black, but I could be wrong?

Glad you like it!

-FHM
 

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