Fiddler Crab Setup?

[scubadoo]

I know what'll get the cr@p off your substrate - use a syphon and keep the tank clean with maintenance !

 

[Adam86]

Fiddler crabs are obviously not suited (as you've been told, they are brackish, need their own setup with 2/3 of tank being land - also even if it wasn't for that at some point your fish would probably kill the crab).

Clown loaches need to be kept in groups of at least 3 though 5+ is better, they do live a long time (I heard approx. 30 years - though it could be longer) and they need at least a 55 gallon tank (that is at least 4ft). they do not eat faeces.

In fact I don not know of an aqarium pet that does live on faeces, Though the odd bit will be eaten by a stupid fish or soem shrimps etc, they cannot live on it and they will add to the bio load rather than help with it.

I think you might need to rethink what you want and what you want it for. Hope that helps

Yeah I looked at the Crabs at the petstore and they had them all the way underwater. They was in a 20 gallon looking tank and it was filled all the way up. I didnt get one because I really dont feel like doing extra care just for him. I like the way clown loachs look. Do you think they will outgrow my 55 gallon tank? Is this a fish that gets big all at once like an Oscar or a fish that grows over 30 years. I keep my tank really clean. I drain water out of it twice a week and I dont have gravel, I use sand.

 

[Nevergone815]

from my research clown loaches rarely exceed 10" in home aquaria, and they are continously growing until they die.

the same is for oscars. oscars will never reach their full size because they keep growing as they age. sure all fish do, but we're talking it can still grow an inch or 2 a year still. oscars grow in spurts like plecos not all at once. they will shoot and grow like 6" then will go kind of dormant and grow like a 2" in the same spand at another point. then back up fast. its weird.

as for the fiddler crab, i got one because they eat detritus (remind you that's not "poop") it is actually the broken down decaying matter (can be poop but not necessarily poop). it is very much like the humus that earthworms eat. but anyways, they feed off of the microorganisms that grow in this detritus. they also do best if yo do feed them a special diet suited for them.

as for the brackish, i cant vouch for that as i never heard it, though i am sure it's probably true. people on here know what theyre talking about. but i will warn you. i got a decent sized one and put it into my tank. well my biggest fish is still smaller than your smnallest and mine killed my crab and ate it. i want to get aq true blue lobster, but after seeing that no way am i going ot get a $20 lobster for my fish to get a gourmet meal.

if you need something to act as a "clean up crew" i would recommend a single bristlenose pleco. they grow to about 6" if i'm not mistaken, eat algae and leftover food. if you would like some crabs, jsut set up a seperate tank for them, i think i may do that (after i get my lobster of course).

like stated no creature lives soley off of "poop", they need other means of food in their diets. the eaqsiest way to solve problems of that sort is to understock, overfilter and do routine maintanance. other than that tht problem will always exist.

well i hope that helped.

 

[freshcrabdude]

from my research clown loaches rarely exceed 10" in home aquaria, and they are continously growing until they die.

the same is for oscars. oscars will never reach their full size because they keep growing as they age. sure all fish do, but we're talking it can still grow an inch or 2 a year still. oscars grow in spurts like plecos not all at once. they will shoot and grow like 6" then will go kind of dormant and grow like a 2" in the same spand at another point. then back up fast. its weird.

as for the fiddler crab, i got one because they eat detritus (remind you that's not "poop") it is actually the broken down decaying matter (can be poop but not necessarily poop). it is very much like the humus that earthworms eat. but anyways, they feed off of the microorganisms that grow in this detritus. they also do best if yo do feed them a special diet suited for them.

as for the brackish, i cant vouch for that as i never heard it, though i am sure it's probably true. people on here know what theyre talking about. but i will warn you. i got a decent sized one and put it into my tank. well my biggest fish is still smaller than your smnallest and mine killed my crab and ate it. i want to get aq true blue lobster, but after seeing that no way am i going ot get a $20 lobster for my fish to get a gourmet meal.

if you need something to act as a "clean up crew" i would recommend a single bristlenose pleco. they grow to about 6" if i'm not mistaken, eat algae and leftover food. if you would like some crabs, jsut set up a seperate tank for them, i think i may do that (after i get my lobster of course).

like stated no creature lives soley off of "poop", they need other means of food in their diets. the eaqsiest way to solve problems of that sort is to understock, overfilter and do routine maintanance. other than that tht problem will always exist.

well i hope that helped.

Good advice.


My Gercarcinus ruricola - Indonesian Land-crab, aka brite red sucker, lives in a semi-aquatic tank with a pair of baby red-ear slyders.. 30 gal. they do have separate small islands for sun bathing. but the turtles are young and are scared mostly. The red indo-crab has white tipped claws which look alittle stout. He spends most the day chillin under the heat light..eatin turtle food scraps.. he also POOPS out the front- if you see this its quite interesting... and the POOP is LARGE and LOOKS HUMAN for his size..its disgusting. So for those who think "crabs clean your tank"- i clean crab poop off islands like you clean dog poop off your lawn.. everyday shovel with a butterknife works best.. The smaller red-claw crabs either "Sri-Lanka" or "East Asian red-claw" local to "PETSMART/CO" are semi-aquatic crabs, loves sun bathing, and love to stay just a foot/claw out of the water.. so they would require something to climb on. mine love my second-pump/filer which sits in the water in-tank, they pick at the filter for food and this is a great hiding place.. but they occasionally walk-about and say hi to the other crabs..
My last crab is undetermined and has the look of a laos/ korean hongkong freshwater crab. they all look the same.. LOL.