🌟 Exclusive Amazon Cyber Monday Deals 🌟

Don’t miss out on the best deals of the season! Shop now 🎁

Everything I am going to get-- am I missing anything?

CuriousFins

Fish Fanatic
Joined
Nov 28, 2021
Messages
103
Reaction score
85
Location
Virginia, USA
Ok, so, I have a 10g tank that I am going to have as a planted tank with a betta fish(and maybe one or two snails). I am going to silent cycle it. These are the things that I am planning on getting.

Mesh tank lid
Light
Light timer/dimmer
50w heater
Thermometer
Sponge filter
Airline tubing
Air pump
Ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate tests
Pure ammonia(for cycling)
Water conditioner
Several plants
Aquarium soil
Liquid fertilizer
Root tabs
Gravel siphon

Am I missing anything? (I am on a budget so there are some things that I won't be getting yet because I don't necessarily need them.)
 
bettas do better when the air they breathe is close to the same temperature as the water they swim in. Can I ask why you are using mesh?
 
bettas do better when the air they breathe is close to the same temperature as the water they swim in. Can I ask why you are using mesh?
Oh... idk. I'm not sure how a light would work with other types of lids. What type of lid would you recommend if I am using this type of light( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T9Y7LQ4/?tag=ff0d01-20 ).

Oooooooof that's a huge link. (Edit: nvm it condensed itself)
 
What is your budget? I would look for it used!

Personally I would skip the plant substrate and do sand, since you are doing root tabs. You can do black or tan. I would look for a glass top lid or one of those black hoods if you like the look. I believe a silent cycle is where you introduce the fish to a heavily planted tank, therefore you don’t need any ammonia, just extra plants.

If you can find it used, you’ll save a ton. I notice you are in VA. Me too! Not sure where you are in VA, but I noticed a very nice 10 gallon with sand, root tabs, plants, planted light, filter, heater, glass scrubber, siphon on my local Craigslist. I only wish I needed a 10 gallon, cause it was such a good deal I woulda bought it!
 
You can use a clear pane of glass from the hardware or glass shop, cut to your specs. Leave a little room for the airline and heater cord.

I am not sure I would start out with aquarium soil - I would go with plain sand or fine gravel and use the root tabs. You want to keep it simple to start. In an ideal world, you would find a local aquarist with a healthy tank and ask to run your sponge as an extra filter for a week or so. Instant cycle... that's what friends are for.

The Betta will have to traverse a danger period with or without a formal cycle. If it is an individual with huge fins, remember that it is coming from a cup, and may have lived in a jar or cup since it was first identified as male. It is going to be really out of shape, and it will have to deal with the drag from the oversized fins. Wild male Bettas look like females - they are quick little torpedoes. Fancy bettas can really struggle til they get their muscle tone, and if they lie around too much, debris and pathogens can get caught in those fins we love so much. Try to get one from a clean container.
 
If you are doing a fish in cycle (silent cycle) you do not add ammonia. So you can remove ammonia from your list.

Don't use aquarium soil. It is a waste of money and stops working after a year or so.

Get a plastic T-piece and tap for the airline. This will allow you to reduce the airflow if the pump is producing too much.

Get a couple of 20 litre (5 gallon) white buckets to drain water into when doing water changes. Use a permanent marker to write "FISH ONLY" on the buckets and keep them with the aquarium gear. Do not let anyone use the fish buckets for anything except aquarium purposes.

------------
A piece of Perspex or coverglass will reduce evaporation and prevent moisture getting onto the light unit. Get a coverglass that is 4, 5 or 6mm thick because thinner glass tends to chip and crack more readily.
If you use Perspex, glue a couple of ribs (reinforcing pieces of Perspex) to the Perspex cover to stop it sagging in the middle.

You can cut a corner out of the coverglass or Perspex and glue a couple of support strips to it and a handle. Then you can lift the corner piece out to feed the fish.

------------
Depending on the plants you get, you might not need the root tabs. These are more for Amazon Sword plants or Aponogetons. A liquid iron based aquarium plant fertiliser should be all you need for most aquarium plants.

You can get an Iron (Fe) test kit to monitor the iron levels and keep them around 1mg/l (1ppm).
 
PLANT BASICS

LIGHTING TIMES

Most aquarium plants like a bit of light and if you only have the light on for a couple of hours a day, they struggle. If the light doesn't have a high enough wattage they also struggle. Try having the tank lights on for 10-12 hours a day.

If you get lots of green algae then reduce the light by an hour a day and monitor the algae over the next 2 weeks.
If you don't get any green algae on the glass then increase the lighting period by an hour and monitor it.
If you get a small amount of algae then the lighting time is about right.

Some plants will close their leaves up when they have had sufficient light. Ambulia, Hygrophilas and a few others close their top set of leaves first, then the next set and so on down the stem. When you see this happening, wait an hour after the leaves have closed up against the stem and then turn lights off.

--------------------
TURNING LIGHTS ON AND OFF
Stress from tank lights coming on when the room is dark can be an issue. Fish don't have eyelids and don't tolerate going from complete dark to bright light (or vice versa) instantly.

In the morning open the curtains or turn the room light on at least 30 minutes (or more) before turning the tank light on. This will reduce the stress on the fish and they won't go from a dark tank to a bright tank instantly.

At night turn the room light on and then turn the tank light off. Wait at least 30 minutes (or more) before turning the room light out. This allows the fish to settle down for the night instead of going from a brightly lit tank to complete darkness instantly.

Try to have the lights on at the same time each day. Use a timer if possible.

--------------------
LIST OF PLANTS TO TRY
Some good plants to try include Ambulia, Hygrophila polysperma, H. ruba/ rubra, Elodia (during summer, but don't buy it in winter because it falls apart), Hydrilla, common Amazon sword plant, narrow or twisted/ spiral Vallis, Water Sprite (Ceratopteris thalictroides/ cornuta).
The Water Sprite normally floats on the surface but can also be planted in the substrate. The other plants should be planted in the gravel.

Ambulia, H. polysperma, Elodia/ Hydrilla and Vallis are tall plants that do well along the back. Rotala macranda is a medium/ tallish red plant that usually does well.

H. ruba/ rubra is a medium height plant that looks good on the sides of the tank.

Cryptocorynes are small/ medium plants that are taller than pygmy chain swords but shorter than H. rubra. They also come in a range of colours, mostly different shades of green, brown or purplish red. Crypts are not the easiest plant to grow but can do well if they are healthy to begin with and are not disturbed after planting in the tank.

Most Amazon sword plants can get pretty big and are usually kept in the middle of the tank as a show piece. There is an Ozelot sword plant that has brown spots on green leaves, and a red ruffle sword plant (name may vary depending on where you live) with deep red leaves.

There is a pygmy chain sword plant that is small and does well in the front of the tank.

--------------------
GROWING PLANTS IN POTS.
We use to grow some plants (usually swords, crypts, Aponogetons and water lilies) in 1 or 2 litre plastic icecream containers. You put an inch of gravel in the bottom of the container, then spread a thin layer of granulated garden fertiliser over the gravel. Put a 1/4inch (6mm) thick layer of red/ orange clay over the fertiliser. Dry the clay first and crush it into a powder. Then cover that with more gravel.

You put the plants in the gravel and as they grow, their roots hit the clay and fertiliser and they take off and go nuts. The clay stops the fertiliser leaching into the water.

You can smear silicon on the outside of the buckets and stick gravel or sand to them so it is less conspicuous. Or you can let algae grow on them and the containers turn green.

--------------------

We did plants in pots for a couple of reasons.
1) I was working in an aquaculture facility and we grew and sold live plants to shops. Some of the shops wanted advanced plants in pots so we did that.

2) Plants like sword plants love nutrients and have big root systems so they needed more gravel and big pots. When given ideal conditions these plants would produce lots of runners with new plants on and we got more plants to sell.

3) Most of the tanks only had a thin layer of substrate that was nowhere near thick enough for plants to grow in so having them in pots allowed us to grow plants in tanks with minimal gravel in the tank.

--------------------
TRUE AQUATIC VS MARSH/ TERRESTRIAL PLANTS
Lots of plants are sold as aquarium plants and most are marsh plants that do really well when their roots are in water and the rest of the plant is above water. Some marsh plants will do well underwater too.

Hair grass is not a true aquatic plant, neither is Anubias.

Some common marsh plants include Amazon sword plants, Cryptocorynes, Hygrophila sp, Rotala sp, Ludwigia sp, Bacopa sp. These plant do reasonably well underwater.

True aquatic plants include Ambulia, Cabomba, Hornwort, Elodia, Hydrilla and Vallis.

The main difference between marsh plants and true aquatic plants is the stem. True aquatics have a soft flexible stem with air bubbles in it. These bubbles help the plant float and remain buoyant in the water column.
Marsh plants have a rigid stem and these plants can remain standing upright when removed from water. Whereas true aquatic plants will fall over/ collapse when removed from water.

--------------------
IRON BASED PLANT FERTILISER
If you add an iron based aquarium plant fertiliser, it will help most aquarium plants do well. The liquid iron based aquarium plant fertilisers tend to be better than the tablet forms, although you can push the tablets under the roots of plants and that works well.

You use an iron (Fe) test kit to monitor iron levels and keep them at 1mg/l (1ppm).

I used Sera Florena liquid plant fertiliser but there are other brands too.

--------------------
CARBON DIOXIDE (CO2)
There is no point adding carbon dioxide (CO2) until you have the lights and nutrients worked out. Even then you don't need CO2 unless the tank is full of plants and only has a few small fish in.

There is plenty of CO2 in the average aquarium and it is produced by the fish and filter bacteria all day, every day. The plants also release CO2 at night when it is dark. And more CO2 gets into the tank from the atmosphere.

Don't use liquid CO2 supplements because they are made from toxic substances that harm fish, shrimp and snails.
 
Silent/plant cycling in brief:

Set up the tank and add the plants. Take a photo.
Do something else for 2 weeks, then compare the tank to the photo. Have the plants grown or not?
If yes, get the betta.
If no, take another photo, wait another two weeks, then compare the tank to the photos. Repeat until the plants do show growth.
Leave the snails till later until the tank has grown some algae.


If there are enough plants they will remove all the ammonia made by the fish and snails. A few bacteria will grow in the background but not nearly as many as in a tank with no live plants, or even just the odd one slow growing plant. There is little point in using ammonia to do a fishless cycle when most of the bacteria will die off when the plants are added. Or if ammonia is added after the plants, the plants will just use all the ammonia leaving none to grow bacteria.
 
Silent/plant cycling in brief:
My version.

Set tank up and add a heap of aquarium plants.
Let tank run for a week or two, then add fish.
Don't feed too much or too often (2-3 times a week) for the first month.
Monitor ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels.
Do water changes each week or whenever you have an ammonia or nitrite reading above 0ppm.
 
That's pretty much the same as mine :) Though I didn't mention testing as 1 betta in 10 gallons won't make very much ammonia (when I did a fishless cycle on a 6 gallon tank for one betta I used 1 ppm ammonia rather than 3 ppm, and that grew more than enough bacteria)
 

Most reactions

Back
Top