Euthanasia.

[KISSfn]

The slice to the brain is bandied about as quicker and more humane, but I just know I couldn't do it personally. And I don't see taking the fish out of water and trying to hold it still on a board as particularly fun for the fish.

The one fish I had to do this to did not need to be held still as he was barely alive by the time I spotted him. He appeared to be ready to have his suffering ended humanely.

Well I meant with them being a bit wet and slimy, not flapping about. And can fish be philosophical about suffering, or was it just dying?

It did give me a chance to touch and hold him whereas we shouldn't touch healthy fish. I think that any death other than instant death has suffering involved. Since I loved him as I love all my pets I chose to help him start his journey to fish heaven. I know when and if I reach a stage where there is no "quality of life" left, I will choose my ending rather than wither away in some hospital.

 

[soybean]

Yes, but I'm saying I'm not sure that fish have the mental capacity to long for their suffering on this earth to end and oh won't someone help me along? That's a very human construct.

 

[KISSfn]

So why bother using clove oil? Why not let the fish die on it's own?

 

[bally]

in the past i have gone for the fast most humane way i know. A fast instant death, slamming them as hard as possible against a hard surface. It doesnt take much of a impact to kill a fish, and if preferable to the suffering they feel.

Has anyone ever " Euthansiased" a health fish or carried out a cull

 

[soybean]

So why bother using clove oil? Why not let the fish die on it's own?

Because that's just being humane. We could easily let it die on its own, I'm sure many do. The difference is that the fish has no concept of being put out its misery or having a humane ending to its suffering. You said "he appeared to be ready to have his suffering ended humanely". No, it was just dying, WE choose to end its suffering humanely.

 

[KISSfn]

So why bother using clove oil? Why not let the fish die on it's own?

Because that's just being humane. We could easily let it die on its own, I'm sure many do. The difference is that the fish has no concept of being put out its misery or having a humane ending to its suffering. You said "he appeared to be ready to have his suffering ended humanely". No, it was just dying, WE choose to end its suffering humanely.

You mention suffering. How can a fish suffer if it has no concept of suffering? The debate still goes on today on whether or not fish feel pain. Until someone can read a fish's thoughts, I would rather presume fish can suffer just in case it is true. I am not saying I am right and you are wrong. Just different thoughts on the concept.

 

[CezzaXV]

I don't know whether the quick methods are more humane really. I'm not arguing with anyone who goes for the knife or bag to the wall method, but if I was personally choosing to die I'd rather be out to sleep and then have them do whatever they needed to, rather than just be shot or whatever. Even if it's not instant, I think it's kinder not to have them aware of what is going on.

 

[The Taffy Apple]

Thanks for all your replies..always good to see the "do fish feel pain or have the concept to suffer" points being made. Maybe another day on that one for me
Anyway, my D.G took a serious, unexpected turn over-night. The only humane thing to do was to help him out and send him on his way.
The back of a tablespoon, 2 swift knocks, he was gone within milli-seconds.

fish, all the colour he had lost int the last 72 hours came back when he was dead, very very odd i thought.

Terry.

 

[KISSfn]

Sorry for your loss.

 

[Jay-93]

I cut the fins off one by one, gut it, turn it inside out, put it in a catapult and try to hit it off my neighbours kitchen window.

Haha, I joke! Put your hate mail away! Most times I actually put a tank inside my tank (used for aggressive fish/breeding/etc), give plenty of food and let it go on its own accord. I had an angelfish that got attacked once which was far too big for the box, so I had to take It outside. Paving slab on its head. Not nice.

 

[Welshweeks]

Sorry to here about your D.G mate. He didn't look too good when i was down the other day. You made the best decision imo.