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I am told by a qualified electrician that a plug in circuit breaker wouldn't work on aquarium equipment because they can't detect live-neutral shorts. They can only detect faults which involve earth wires and as aquarium equipment in the UK doesn't have an earth wire they can't detect a fault. They work fine for equipment which does have an earth wire though.



Did you know that even with an electric fault in a tank fish won't be electrocuted, just us when we put our hands in the water? Fish aren't earthed, in the same way that birds sitting on a power line aren't earthed so they aren't electrocuted.
 
By all means give advice based on wiring regulations to someone living in the same country, but not to members living in countries with different wiring regulations.
Water and electricity are poor companions regardless of borders and this is just a case/opportunity to point out the potential risk and a simple plug in solution. The advice may or may not be appropriate for the OP, but more than appropriate for many/most readers.
In most european countries' plugs/wiring, as @DAnCSF correctly described, the ground is in the casing itself. Thus, there is not always a third prong, and a GFCI is useless because there is nothing for it to detect.
I dunno, I have many two prong devices plugged into the GFI adapter and the breaker will trip if there is any excessive voltage fluctuation. Just as an example, I have a Tom Aqualifter pump as well as a couple of Aquaclear 70 filters on my 60g. On occassion, if I simply unplug one or the other, the breaker will trip. Clearly the result of a voltage fluctuation, not a short to ground. Perhaps newer GFI adapters are not the same as older ones?
 
could it be a surge protector instead of a GFCI fuse? from what I understand, the mechanics of a surge protector work differently, and additionally surge protectors have limited lifespans due to fatigue in the sensing components. Could it be that your surge protector is reaching end of life and is reading a dip in current in the opposite way? this is purely speculation, but I know in the US a lot of the power strips that have GFCI also have surge protection and vice versa.
 
Those GFCI's can be used in the US but not in the UK. The way our electrical system is wired is different and they wouldn't work. That's why google can't find any for sale in the UK, only those on American sites.

GFCI, GFI, and RCD are all the same. In the US they are called GFI or GFCI while in UK and other countries use RCD all work the same way. The main difference between countries is the voltage, and Frequency. US 120VAC at 60Hz. Europe 240VAC 50Hz. Obviously you cannot use `20VCAC 60Hz device on 240VAC 50Hz supply. In many places a 3 pin plug is only needed if the device has a metal case. If it is a plastic case a 2 pin plug is used. Obviously you cannot use `20VCAC 60Hz device on 240VAC 50Hz supply. All wall outlets in the US have 3 pin plugs (earth, neutral, ground) and Europe is also the same. The shape of the outlet and plug are different but that is a bout it.

Regardless my advise was for any country. The only thing is I just used the US name GFCI, instead of the European name RCD. In my job I work on maintaining Semiconductor manufacturing equipment. which has 3 phase GFCIs build in. I have also been involved with assisting on testing to verify CE compliance for European customers.
 
Which part(s) of Europe? Mainland Europe is different again from the UK.
 
Which part(s) of Europe? Mainland Europe is different again from the UK.
Essjay you need to understand how a GFI /RCD work and how a tank is grounded. Once you do you would realize the Differences between UK, Europe, Asia and north america don't really matter.

Lets start with the basic circuit breaker. Say you have a 10 amp circuit breaker on a wall outlet. When the aquarium pump is operating normally it is generally not going to need more than 1amp to operate. However if it shouts out it will pull more than 10 Amps of current and the circuit breaker will turn off the power. Note the circuit breaker is not there to protect you from Electrical shock. Its sol purpose is to prevent the home wiring from catching fire.

A CFC / RCD measures the current on the hot and neutral wires. If there is no ground fault the current on the hot wire will equal the current on the neutral. However when a ground fault occurs there will be more current hot wire and less on the neutral wire. The differences in current only needs to be about 0.01 amps or less for the GFI turn power off. If the current differences is only slightly exceeds 0.01 Amps a person could recieve a lethal shock. During a ground fault some of the current from the hot wire gets out of a wire flows through something such as you, tan then exits and flows into the ground through your feet. If doesn't mater if the GFI is grounded or not. And if doesn't matter if the aquarium pump plug has a ground pin or is double insulated.. The internal sensor circuitry doesn't need to be grounded to work. And the plug ground pin or double insulation doesn't mater to the operation of the GFI.

IF a pump fails such that the water of the tank becomes electrified , in most case the GFI and circuit breaker will not trip. The tank walls and base are made of materials that do not conduct electricity. So the current flow though the water is zero and the GFI and circuit breakers will not trip. However if you then walk up the aquarium with no shoes on and the flour is a little wet you could receive a shock when current enters your hand and then leave through your feet. And only then will the GFI or RCD actually cut off power. They are designed to trip very fast to prevent any injury. In my own experience you may not feel the shock but you will hear a CFI or RCD trip.

Now if you tank the same tank and place a stainless steal wire into the water and connect the other end to a water pipe. Now the water in the tank is grounded. So if the pump fails and the water becomes electrified the GFI will immediately trip. likely before you put your hand in the water. So the safety designed into house wiring doesn't mater because the GFI is only looking at the current on the hot and neutral lines connect to the device you are handling or the device in your aquarium.

Although I did not look at aquarium hardware in the UK but with everythingI have seen on business trip in europe, UK, and Asia I have not seen anything indicating a signifiant significant differences in safety standards. The only difference in safety I have seen is the GFI or RCD's are relatively new and many older buildings don't have them or in some places building codes have not yet mandated GFI or RCD's.
 
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My son is an electrician. He passed the newly issued 18th edition wiring regulations exam last year with just 1 error and that concerned wiring regulations in fairgrounds and circuses. He is currently living with us having split up with his wife at the end of 2020. When this question was first posted I asked him and he got out his text books and showed me wiring diagrams. He dictated the reply in post #6 as the information he showed me went over my head.

He also said that the OP's consumer unit performed exactly as it was supposed to in the event of a neutral-live short in a 2 core flex. A UK plug in 'circuit breaker' (layman's term for them) is designed to detect shorts involving the earth wire in 3 core flexes and will not trip for a short in a 2 core flex.
 
I studied Electrical engineering but never became a full engineer.
I was a CAA Helicopter Licenced Engineer and should know all about Electrics - but the house electrical systems passed me by. I now understand about Circuit Breakers and the like, so some good is coming from all the 'posts'. Thanks everyone.
Let's call this an end.
 

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