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Electric blue ram life expectancy?

BettaMan2000

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Has anyone kept some that’ve lived to their expected age?

On the internet there’s a lot of confusing info as to how long these actually live.
 
I kept a ram for a month before I figured out I could not give it the proper temperature so I rehome it. I think if you keep a ram at to low of water temperature it life span decreases by a good amount.
 
In the right environment, this species should live for four years. It seldom does, sadly, because aquarists fail to give it the correct environment.

The right environment means water with a GH and pH very close to that in which the fish was spawned and raised, and a warm temperature, 80F minimum. Wild caught fish need very soft and acidic water, but tank-raised fish have demonstrated a healthy lifespan when maintained in water approximating that in which they were spawned and raised, something which is rarely discernible unless one knows the breeder.

It is also highly sensitive to nitrate (like all cichlids, we now know) and any deterioration or fluctuations in water chemistry. Finding tankmates is somewhat challenging, as not all "tropical" species can manage in such warm water on a permanent basis.

When I last had this species, some 18 years ago now, I was uninformed about the temperature and it lived about two years. It is one of my aims with fish to acquire a bonded wild caught pair one of these days. My tap water is about as close to their habitat water as it can be, once the chlorine is dealt with.

More recently I had its cousin, the Bolivian Ram, Mikrogeophagus altispinosus, which has a similar lifespan of 4-5 years, but is fine with more normal tropical temperatures, around 76-77F. This species does very well in solitude; my male was nearing the end of his ninth year when he died, just over a year ago now. He was wild caught, and he must have been happy with things to have lived double the normal life expectancy.
 
also do you even know where you could buy one? and the price of them? you should look into that.
 
I’ve also seen multiple things on the net that suggest EBRs can be kept at 25 deg C and in moderately soft water.

So I suppose it could come down to the fish, or if it’s been bred closer to home, in a similar water supply?

Does anyone know of a reputable uk supplier as I’d really like to ask them.

Because if this is the case I might have a suitable setup and I’d really like to have a pair eventually, but am scared I might inadvertently kill them.
 
I don't think there are many, if any, commercial breeders in the UK. But there could well be someone near you who breeds them at home.
Is there a fish club in your area that you could join? Or see if anyone is selling them on aquarist classified
 
I’ve also seen multiple things on the net that suggest EBRs can be kept at 25 deg C and in moderately soft water.

So I suppose it could come down to the fish, or if it’s been bred closer to home, in a similar water supply?

Temperature is not a changeable parameter. Mikrogeophagus ramirezi is a warm water fish. Advice to the contrary is inaccurate. The problem is, you have no way of knowing how long the fish will live until it dies. And this species will not live its normal lifespan in cooler water than what I posted previously.
 

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