Eggbound Cont.2

[GP]

OK guys, I'm really worried. Last night, I tried feeding her peas, she didn't see them nor try to eat them. Afterwards, I got desperate and tried the gentle rubbing technique on her belly. I was too afraid to go further, so I stopped, no eggs. I'm thinking more towards bloaded, but I don't know how to cure it if she isn't going to eat. Can she get a black belly from being bloaded?

 

[rollntider]

I noticed some times when I breed 2 of the times the females egg tube popped out and they started dropping eggs. I am not saying to breed her but put her in with the male (Isolated of course) and see if she would release her eggs that way....worth a shot anyways....

 

[JoKeR]

Ok sicne last time.....

But like I suggested last time
Put her in a paper towel wet in with stress cost and water get a q-tip and put sone stress coat again and rub her ovipositir

 

[cutecotton]

i think rolln's idea might work, sometiems during spawning i've had an over-excietd female and she just started to drop eggs without wrapping, so sometimes she can be excited enough to release her with you having to manually do it.

 

[f250fisherman]

This could be so many different things. It might not be egg bound at all. It could be internal parasites. They even get tape worms. It could be the first stages of dropsy. Usually a female that has eggs can breach them, and they usually eat the eggs. When they do get eggbound, sometimes you can help them, like what has been suggested. Sometimes it's a badly formed oviposter. It could be internal damage, from many things. Fighting, darting real quick and bumping something, even being shook or banged around during shipping. I only tell you this so you can consider other options. Try putting a flashlight behind the female, and see if you can tell if there is eggs, or does it look like the stomach is swollen. Look straight down on the betta while its in the water. See if the scales along its sides are sticking out any. Like a pinecone. I apoligise if I'm off base here. Maybe you know exactly what is wrong. If not, look for other things than just eggbound.

 

[Wisperian]

This could be so many different things. It might not be egg bound at all. It could be internal parasites. They even get tape worms. It could be the first stages of dropsy. Usually a female that has eggs can breach them, and they usually eat the eggs. When they do get eggbound, sometimes you can help them, like what has been suggested. Sometimes it's a badly formed oviposter. It could be internal damage, from many things. Fighting, darting real quick and bumping something, even being shook or banged around during shipping. I only tell you this so you can consider other options. Try putting a flashlight behind the female, and see if you can tell if there is eggs, or does it look like the stomach is swollen. Look straight down on the betta while its in the water. See if the scales along its sides are sticking out any. Like a pinecone. I apoligise if I'm off base here. Maybe you know exactly what is wrong. If not, look for other things than just eggbound.

I dont think you should keep worrying GP he is really really in love with the orangies...... I'd follow JoKeR's or rollns idea

 

[cation]

He's not trying to worry him, he's suggesting some other possible causes. If I were GP I would want to hear it, because the information f250 gave might help in diagnosing the fish. What if she's not eggbound, but something else is wrong? Not bringing it up might deny GP the info he needs to help his fish.

 

[GP]

Alright, I've noticed something really wierd. During the past two days, there have been little white strands off of her fin. I've noticed alot of this at the bottom of the tank, also.. Could this be a lead?

 

[f250fisherman]

It could be Columnaris. Like I said earlier, I could be wrong, and it might be eggbound. I seem to remember in your first post on another thread, you said the fish was eggbound. All the information has resulted from that. The question is...is it eggbound. Diagnosing is the first step.

 

[f250fisherman]

Actually, I did put this in the other post.
I apoligise if I'm off base here. Maybe you know exactly what is wrong. If not, look for other things than just eggbound.
I didn't want to be a pessimist, but thought GP might want to look into other possibilitys.

 

[jacblades]

Ok sicne last time.....

But like I suggested last time
Put her in a paper towel wet in with stress cost and water get a q-tip and put sone stress coat again and rub her ovipositir

this technique does not work at all and it could possible cause damage to the fish if you dont know what you are doing (since i bet ALL of us dont)

my female became eggbound when i tried to breed her. i guess the male squeezed her too hard and something clogged her tube.

i only had luck with starving her. i suppose her body will need the extra nutrition and absorb the eggs. i never saw any eggs drop from my girl so i am assuming thats what happened. or she dropped them and ate them...

can you show us a pic gp?

 

[cutecotton]

wouldn't the idea of taking the fish out of water stress it out even further and could potentially cause damaged fins?

i agree with f250 as well, sometimes you gotta look outside the box too, for all you know it could be something other than eggboundness. I dont 'know waht those white stuff are though some kind of parasite maybe?

 

[bkk_group]

This could be so many different things. It might not be egg bound at all. It could be internal parasites. They even get tape worms. It could be the first stages of dropsy. Usually a female that has eggs can breach them, and they usually eat the eggs. When they do get eggbound, sometimes you can help them, like what has been suggested. Sometimes it's a badly formed oviposter. It could be internal damage, from many things. Fighting, darting real quick and bumping something, even being shook or banged around during shipping. I only tell you this so you can consider other options. Try putting a flashlight behind the female, and see if you can tell if there is eggs, or does it look like the stomach is swollen. Look straight down on the betta while its in the water. See if the scales along its sides are sticking out any. Like a pinecone. I apoligise if I'm off base here. Maybe you know exactly what is wrong. If not, look for other things than just eggbound.

I dont think you should keep worrying GP he is really really in love with the orangies...... I'd follow JoKeR's or rollns idea

i would think you would encourage sage advice as f250 posted instead of discouraging it the way you did. the more useful opinions one has the better to correctly diagnose a potential problem.

 

[GP]

wouldn't the idea of taking the fish out of water stress it out even further and could potentially cause damaged fins?

i agree with f250 as well, sometimes you gotta look outside the box too, for all you know it could be something other than eggboundness. I dont 'know waht those white stuff are though some kind of parasite maybe?

I tried the gentle rubbing technique, her left fin bearly moves.


I've been starving her for a while now, she looks a bit thinner. I'll get some pics up later.

 

[GuppyDude]

i dont think starveing her is going to help, she needs to eat so her body can deal withh the stress of being eggbound. id suggest live or frozen foods, maybe a pea here and there. im sry shes sick gp, i hope she makes a recovery all u can do is wait, youre doing wat u can.