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[arielsworld17974]

You guys are so knowledable I love it! From what I read I do believe my bugger angel is a male And my smaller one is probably a female. So excited!

 

[Akasha72]

sexing angels is a fine art - not one I'm totally mastered as I've already said! Sometimes a male is really obvious as it has the nunchal hump from early on and only the males get these. 
 
My knowledge is hit and miss... I don't profess to know everything. I said right from the start of re-joining this forum that if I didn't know something I'd always say so ... I have nothing to gain by making it up! 
 
The beauty of forums like this is the things we don't know can be learnt from someone who does know

 

[eaglesaquarium]

You guys are so knowledable I love it! From what I read I do believe my bugger angel is a male And my smaller one is probably a female. So excited!

 
 
Beware things you read on the internet.    

 

[Akasha72]

 

You guys are so knowledable I love it! From what I read I do believe my bother angel is a male And my smaller one is probably a female. So excited!

 
 
Beware things you read on the internet.  

 

 
I agree 

 

[TwoTankAmin]

There is a pretty long standing and well respected Angel site in the states. Here is what they have to say about sexing angels;
 

 

How can I tell the male angelfish from the female angelfish?

 

There are some subtle differences that an experienced angelfish breeder can use to help identify mature males and females. In our experience, these differences do not exist on immature angelfish, all of the time. The only sure way to distinguish mature males from mature females is to examine the breeding tubes during spawning. The female's breeding tube is wider and more blunt than the male's. In some lines the mature male angelfish may show some other small differences. For instance, some may have a hump on the crown and some may be larger than the females. However, this may not hold true from line to line or even within a line. There are many who say the angle of the anal fin in relation to the belly of the angelfish, will identify the sex. We have not found this to be consistent, but it does appear to have some validity in some lines. The female angelfish will generally have a near 100°-110° angle formed by the forward edge of the belly and the anal fin. The male angelfish will have a greater angle in the range of 120°-150° degrees. Most often it requires a lot of experience to detect the subtle differences seen in some lines.

from http/www.angelsplus.com/faqangel.htm
 
There is no reliable method for determing the sex of angelfish aside from examining their tubes. In those cases where the above states some folks can detect differences in some lines, it also states that it requires lots of experience. So I wonder how many folks posting above have been breeding a variety of angels for at least 5 or more years to come even close to having this skill? And even if you have been doing it for years, how do you know which strains this works with and those it will not?
 
But it is fun to speculate and to try and sex them. But until you have actual proof of the sex of any given angel, all it will be is best guess.
 
The one thing you will consistently see for sure is the advice given when people ask about how to get a pair of angels. One way is to buy them proven or at least in spawning mode where the tubes have been seen. The other is to start with at least 5 - 6 or more youngsters and grow them out together until a pair or pairs form and you see their tubes down.
 
Of course when they actually spawn you will see eggs coming out of the female as she lays them and you will see the male making passes over the eggs but not depositing any.