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kellyinman1

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I cutrrently have 4 tanks and am wanting to set up another 4 ft tank.
I have fallen in love with discus and really would love a tank with them in.
What would i need to buy and do before i buy them? i dont want them to die and know the water quality has to be really good.
Any help would be brilliant.
Thanx
 
I've not kept discus, though I've spent a fair amount of time reading up on them. I'll tell you what I've picked up, and I'm sure someone on here who keeps them will correct me when I'm wrong:

1. As you say, water quality is paramount. When they're subadult they need regular large water changes (I've heard the figure 50% daily quoted by a discus breeder, though as they get older I believe that figure drops off.) That may be relevant dependant on your budget, as adults are more expensive.
2. They prefer groups of 5+ for security
3. They are notorious for getting stressed easily, and as such starving themselves to death

Some people use RO water I believe to help keep the water quality high, though I don't think its essential - I've heard others say they just use tap water.

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure someone else will confirm where I'm right and correct me if I'm wrong - hopefully that'll give you a flavour of whats involved though.
 
I've not kept discus, though I've spent a fair amount of time reading up on them. I'll tell you what I've picked up, and I'm sure someone on here who keeps them will correct me when I'm wrong:

1. As you say, water quality is paramount. When they're subadult they need regular large water changes (I've heard the figure 50% daily quoted by a discus breeder, though as they get older I believe that figure drops off.) That may be relevant dependant on your budget, as adults are more expensive.
2. They prefer groups of 5+ for security
3. They are notorious for getting stressed easily, and as such starving themselves to death

Some people use RO water I believe to help keep the water quality high, though I don't think its essential - I've heard others say they just use tap water.

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure someone else will confirm where I'm right and correct me if I'm wrong - hopefully that'll give you a flavour of whats involved though.

Thanx for your help, what is RO water???
 
Reverse osmosis water. Its basically pure water - nothing else in there, no minerals etc. Its perfect quality water, but as some of the minerals in the water that get removed by the RO process are needed by fish you need to add those minerals - or only use small amounts etc of RO water in the tank (I think.) I've never quite got my head round it as its not something I've ever needed, so you might be best off googling it for a better explanation.
 
Rabbut's seven rules of Discus keeping. Note, these are not rules, just guidelines :lol:

1) Keep them warm, 28-32 degrees centigrade is where they want to be. This will melt many potential tankmates, so choose companions with care. While looking at tankmates, you realy do need to be careful about what you mix with them, agressive, fast, nocturnal or large fish are a no-no with Discus. Plan your stocking arround the Discus if you want to have them :good:

2) Over-filter through large and reliable canisters, or off a sump. I run at 7X an hour in mine, through two Tetratec EX1200's in a 335l tank. Many keepers say they do not like flow, but mine often cruse in the outlet at feeding time, realising that thats where I drop the food. They seem not to mind a current IME. You will also note that I am running two canisters, each of which is capable of running the tank alone. This is a redundant system, such that if one fails the tank does not crash, and it is done because Discus are expencive and you get very attached to them. A filter failure in a tank running one filter would put them at sevear risk :sad:

3) Clean water. The water needs to be clean. For adult fish, you are looking at 50% weekly waterchanges. I aim for twice weekly 50%'s, though juviniles need dailys as tenohfive says :nod:

4) Good food. Feed lots, 4 times a day minimum, of food in a 50-50 split between frozen/fresh and dryed prepaired food. Make the diet of good quality stuff, and keep it varied. Beware overfeeding though, as this pulls waterquality down ;) Mine get Vipakraft Discusin, Tropical quintette frozen and veg from Human meals as and when :nod:

5) Research, research and research some more. Many people consider Discus "hard to keep". This is mainly due to ignorance, advanced, mebe, but hard, no, not if you know the fish and keep up with care :good: When someone tells you they are hard to keep, hear "I was too ignorant to research properly and I blame the fish due to errors in my care as a result of lack of research" or "I am just repeating the words of another fishkeeper that doesn't have a clue about them either" as applicable for the person telling you. When you think you know enough to start dabbeling with them, try helping people with Discus on the forum. State you don't yet keep them, but that you would do X in Y situation. If the Discus keepers agree with you consistantly, great, you are ready. If you find yourself being corrected, thats OK, it just shows that you have avoided loosing one of your own fish to a potential mistake that you posted ;) No Discus keeper will follow your advice untill they have heared from a Discus keeper also, unless they are getting realy desporate, so you are unlikely to do any damage with any errors while checking your learning this way :good:

6) Keep groups. They need a minimum group of 5, preferably more, be beware overstocking unless you love doing waterchanges though :lol:

7) Always keep them in a mature (6 month old +) tank. Since a new tank will force you to wait for them, focus on point 5 while you let the tank mature.

HTH
Rabbut
 
Couldn't have said it better then Rabbut. :good:


If you have juvy fish, it is preferable to keep them in a bare bottom tank. Try to feed and water change as much as possible. If you can do a 50-60% water change daily, then feed 6 times a day. This would be ideal.

I started doing 40% water changes and feeding 5 times a day, and the fish love it!!!


Keep your filter clean too! Once a week, or once every other week get some tank water in a bucket when doing you water change, and let your foam inserts in the filter soak in this bucket to get all the gunk out of them!
 

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