Declining wild fish stocks.

[Lateral Line]

Sad but probably true artcle from the BBC.

http/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3151384.stm

 

[Kossy]

that's not a very nice bit of information humans are well humans and we need to stop doing that

 

[smb]

Great link LL and thanks for sharing that. It's really sad what we humans are doing to this World.

I have a lot to say on this subject but would rather not in the forum. Let's just say that I'm on the fish and animals side and leave it at that for now.

 

[KnuckleHead]

Great article but it makes kinda feel guilty for owning aquariums.

 

[Kossy]

Yeah it does, however if we have fish plantations then we wont need to take them from the wild...so I say someone build some massive planttion with hundreds of types of fish only problem is MONEY i guess its cheaper to take them from the wild...thats all humans are concerned about MONEY

 

[freshmike]

I have had the chance to buy alot of wild fish in the past and didn't, don't know why, price maybe, but I think it is the thought that these little guys HAVE seen the wild and were taken away from it. As for the fish I do keep, this is probably the best life they have seen so far! (I hope)

 

[n00dle]

well if we breed them like most of us try to do or knew more we could try to keep the numbers taken from the wild down

 

[Jo]

so I say someone build some massive planttion with hundreds of types of fish

Hmmm.....well I would love to do this...I really hope that the fish I have bought are not from the wild...I'm going to leave work and start working on my plantation, then in a few years time I'll have enough to stock the world....!

Thanks for sharing this, I feel guilty now!

 

[cichlidmaster]

Unlike the freshwater species most of us keep, Marine species are only now being bred in captivity!!

The clown fish is one such species being bred. Corals are also being propagated in captivity so this will surely help.

It takes a far more intensive operation to do this and therefore the wild capture remains the main practice for these species.

As for my personal opinion on the subject......well I will not (as smb) go into it here.

I do agree that not only limits, but stronger enforcement against the use of cyanide need to be enacted.

CM

 

[Alien Anna]

Yeah it does, however if we have fish plantations then we wont need to take them from the wild...so I say someone build some massive planttion with hundreds of types of fish only problem is MONEY i guess its cheaper to take them from the wild...thats all humans are concerned about MONEY

Yes, but I heard a radio program on the BBC the other week about the breeding in the wild of tropical fish - a kind of natural fish-farming, and how it is enabling the native people's to manage the rain-forests rather than razing them to the ground. So its good for everyone. Not only that, but they are discovering new species all the time and learning how to breed them.

 

[guppymonkey]

This sort of thing is the reason I won't get a salt water tank. For people that seem to care about the well being of their fish some people care very little about the environment and the well being of fish species as a whole. And I hate it when people say they are trying to save species by taking them out of the wild and trying to breed them in their tank. The fish is more likely to breed in its natural environment than a tank, even a rather large tank. This is why people should only buy domestic bred fish, not wild caught.

 

[mrV]

About freshwater fishes...

Many lakes/river have been saved because population near by those places get their living (wages) by "fishing" fishes to sell. If they gave up that, they'd remove all those lakes/rivers and start to produce something else, like marihuana/opium etc.. So, it's not only bad thing to catch fishes from natur - it also prevents eco-catastrophe.

And what comes to salt water, you should always ask from your local store how have they captured those fishes. Some use toxin to paralyse fishes etc... And it's also very bad thing to natur and usually those fishes die sooner or later.

 

[cichlidmaster]

This is why people should only buy domestic bred fish, not wild caught.

I am assuming you mean the average hobbyist and not breeders.

Without those wild fish....there would be no domestic fish to buy.

CM

 

[guppymonkey]

I am assuming you mean the average hobbyist and not breeders.

Without those wild fish....there would be no domestic fish to buy.

Too many people think they are breeders though. I know I am guilty of this. Not many people can resist trying to breed fish. The babies are cute and it gives a feeling of power to know that YOU are responsible for these fishies being alive. I don't really believe people that say that wild fish are needed to keep the genetic diversity of the species, there are so many thousands of each species in captivity that the diversity is guarenteed, except where inbreeding has caused abnormal coloration or body formation. And wild fish wouldn't benefit these specialty fish (fancy fish) because they would get rid of the traits that were specifically bred for.

In some cases breeders can keep threatened species alive. But these are specially trained breeders with a lot more knowledge and training than most fish enthusiasts.

 

[cichlidmaster]

I will simply say this.................

In my many years of breeding fish, I have assisted well known breeders involved in captive breeding programs to replenish the stocks in Lake Victoria.

I was also responsible for providing some stock for diversity within the breeding populations.

I disagree with you on the point of wild stock not being of use to make the gene pool strong again.

It is a well known fact among breeders this is an absolute necessity.


Your opinion however is noted. I would appreciate your telling us what this opinion is based on!!


CM