Common Clown

[richard t]

Good evening all. I was at my LFS saturday and saw some black clowns labelled as Amphiprion Ocellaris ( colour variant ). Is there a tank bred black common clown?? The LFS kept both colour clowns in the same tank all juveniles. If the clowns were of the same species, would it be possible to keep a mixed pair or even two pairs in a large enough tank?? Leaving aside colour, if there is no anemone in the tank can more than two clowns be kept of the same species?? I say no anemone, because there would be nothing to fight over. ( Last sentence was less a statement, more a question as well ). Just one last question while i am on In a 350ltr tank would i have the room to home two Dwarf Angels. I already have a resident Coral Beauty, would any of the dwarfs be compatible?? ( i'd like to keep seven of them ) sorry bad joke just two. Cheers all.

 

[Navarre]

Highly unlikely that they are true Black perc as they are rare and the price is high. More than likely a colour morph and thus they are the same species.

Clowns dont appreciate the company of other clowns in most tanks unless they are very large tanks (i have seen 2 pairs of clowns in a 7ft tank). I would advise you keep just a single pair, be it the same colour or 1 of each colour.
They dont need anenomes nor do they need an anenome to establish a teritory to defend. Once they settle in they will find a spot they like and defend it vigorously.

As for the 2nd dwarf.. this is a bit hit and miss.. you coulr try and find your coral beauty will ignore it.. or of course it could attack and harras it.. i wuold choose an angel that is a different body shape and color to avoid as much aggression as possible.
Another possibility is to re arrange the rockwork before introducing the new angel so that the resident angel has no territory to defend.

 

[Chac]

I have had succes with mixing Perc & Saddleback Clowns, mostly they ignored each other, but there was the odd occassion when one of the saddle's would hang about with my Perc's, never had a problem, but IMO this was just pure luck that I found Buddah reincarnated in my clowns

As for mixing Angels, I have thought of doing this as I have a CB as well, did look at adding a Flame but never went throught with it, also would love to add a Potters but they are just to similar to the CB

 

[Tiggs]

for reference, this is my true black female.

colour mophs tend to have far more orange/black bits and i see loads of these in the LFS (had to order my black oynx direct from supplier - never them seen in a LFS)

 

[Navarre]

I could be mistaken on this buti thought that true black percs were totally black.

All true black percs i have seen (only 2 pairs as they are truely this rare) have been black from nose to tail.

 

[Tiggs]

from what i have read.....

the clowns in your pic are colour variants of Amphiprion ocellaris (false clowns), the colour varient can be all sorts and i suppose its quite possible that pure balck/white is rare.

my clowns are a black variant of Amphiprion percula (true percula) and are known as Black Oynx Clowns (or black true percs) and regarded as a rare/expensive (although there is some debate as to if they look £100 a pair better than normal percs!)

i have never seen a black perc in a LFS, but theres lots of false percs and lots of colour morphs (prob due to the amount of tank breeding that goes on?)

T

 

[bunjiweb]

My clown is pure black/white, he doesnt have the red/orange nose like others we have at work, hence why I picked him. Is it possible that he is a true black varient?

I thought that all black/white percula clowns were captive bred to get their colouring although I may be wrong?

Ben

 

[Tiggs]

My clown is pure black/white, he doesnt have the red/orange nose like others we have at work, hence why I picked him. Is it possible that he is a true black varient?

I thought that all black/white percula clowns were captive bred to get their colouring although I may be wrong?

Ben

Ben,


as per my post- it sounds like you have a black and white false clown.....not a true balck perc (which is my pic)

 

[Navarre]

There are wild ones i beleive. Mark at Acropora House has a breeding trio in his display tank. I recall him saying they were wild caught.