Cloudy Water

tin_tin26

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Hi all....

i'm totally new to keeping tropical fish! - i was a bit daft and bought a 180L tank and thought it was just a case of filling it with water then adding the fish! Oops!

Anyways, i've managed to set my tank up and all the tests on the water seem fine, but... the water is really cloudy! - the water was crystal clear for the first 2 weeks but over the las few days, it has become cloudy and seems to be getting worse.

Can anybody tell me what i'm doing wrong? - or what the problem might be?

Sorry for the stupid question.

Thanks.
 
Is it white? If so, it's a bacterial bloom.

There's a good bit of confusion and misinformation on this, so here's the rundown:

Since it sounds like you just filled the tank and added fish, your tank will be in a cycle as nitrifying bacteria build up to process ammonia and nitrite. Review this thread for the basics there:
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=175355

The bacterial bloom, however, is a different type of bacteria. These normally live in the biofilm that coats all surfaces of the tank. They don't process ammonia, but process fish waste and leftover food, releasing ammonia. These reproduce much faster than the nitrifying bacteria, so when you have an excess of fish poop or uneaten food, they start to grow like wildfire, causing a bacterial bloom in the water. Since a new tank has no biofilm yet, this is fairly common for your situation. Nitrifying bacteria don't reproduce fast enough to do this.

The bloom itself is harmless, however, they're generally linked with ammonia spikes as they accellerate the breakdown of waste, and this is bad. Since the tank isn't cycled, you'll have excess ammonia to start with.

Review the thread above. If you don't have a test kit, start doing 50% water changes a day anyway until you can get one. Remember to use dechlorinator (I recommend Seachem Prime or a pond dechlorinator, as these use a drop or two per gallon and thus are far more economical than brands like Aquasafe). Gravel vacuuming can help deal with the bacterial bloom, as well, as it will suck up fish waste and food that would otherwise fuel the bloom. Don't panic if water changes don't fix the bloom, since the bacteria can grow fast enough that even after a 90% water change, they'll be back to full in an hour. Just focus on keeping ammonia and nitrite under 0.25 ppm.

Do you have your own test kit? You'll need one, liquid based are far more accurate and much cheaper in the long run than strips. Pet stores aren't great for doing water tests - they may tell you your water is fine when it isn't fine, but simply not of immediate worry. It's also inconvenient to use pet stores for monitoring, and you'll want to test regularly, especially during the next critical few months. During the cycle, you'll want to test at least once, preferably twice a day.

Some information that will help give far more thorough advice:

Tank size
Filter
Current live stock
Detailed water stats: ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH.


Edit: If you don't have fish yet, disregard all of the above, it's probably just dust out of the substrate. If this is the case, please review this thread before you get fish:
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=113861
 
Thanks very much for that information!! - its appreciated!!

Here is the required information -

tank size - 190L
filter - Fluval 205
fish - 2 suckermouth catfish, 4 red plattys, 2 tiger barbs. (i think thats what they're called :unsure: )

Test kit - API freshwater master test kit.
Amonia - 0
Nitrate - 5
Nitrite - 0
PH - 7.3

Should i carry out water change?

Thanks again.
 
So far it looks like your water is OK Tin_Tin. If you keep a close eye on it, you will eventually see the ammonia reading start to rise. When you do, you will need to deal with that using water changes to keep the levels below 0.25 ppm. In the meantime, if you have a fair number of plants actively growing in the tank you may only experience some very low ammonia levels and nothing much more. You do have plenty of fish in that tank to get things going on your cycle so no more should be added until you have a chance to get through the cycle.
 
yes, good start that you've a good quality test kit. don't worry about the cloudy water, although it's unsightly it will go by itself and it won't affect the fish.

for now just monitor ammonia and nitrite every day, if you see any reading other than 0 then you do water changes, if they hold steady at 0,0 then you're good and can just do a regular weekly water change. Post up your water test results here every day and we can monitor things with you and let you know if there's anything you need to do.

if the tanks been running with fish for 2 weeks there is a chance that it's actually cycled now and you just didn't see it! It'd be a very quick cycle but it does go that way sometimes. Did you do anything to kick start the cycle, add any bacteria supplements or get any mature filter media at the start?

as you're just starting out there's some more links floating around that will help you, good place to start is the link in my sig about weekly maintenance, that will make sure your tank is well cared for if you follow the instructions, also have a look at the 'step by step guide to setting up an aquarium' while i know you'rs is already set up there's loads in there which will help you to understand a bit more about the fishes environment and how to keep them happy and healthy.
 

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