cleaning up my plants

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I am still on a quest for Panda Garras, although feeding my plants may have fixed the cyanobacteria in my 55, my albino bristlenose pair are very happy parents in the hex tank. I need to get residual cyano off my plant leaves and my clown pleco isn't going to do that and I don't want it to hurt any pleco. Someone said panda garras would be unharmed by cyanobacteria, so I have been unsuccessfully searching for some.

I need suggestions on gently cleaning my plants or possibly where has anyone gotten healthy fish from by mail, that might carry panda garra?
 

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I am still on a quest for Panda Garras, although feeding my plants may have fixed the cyanobacteria in my 55, my albino bristlenose pair are very happy parents in the hex tank. I need to get residual cyano off my plant leaves and my clown pleco isn't going to do that and I don't want it to hurt any pleco. Someone said panda garras would be unharmed by cyanobacteria, so I have been unsuccessfully searching for some.

I need suggestions on gently cleaning my plants or possibly where has anyone gotten healthy fish from by mail, that might carry panda garra?
Dan's Fish in Sheridan Wyoming has a VERY good reputation as to 'mail order fish' but I've never actually had any delivered as I live next to their warehouse.

Dan's Fish does have 35 panda garra in stock.

I don't really know as to the plants as I'm a plant newbie but I really can't see why you couldn't use a soft sponge to wipe the leaves. If using you MAY be dosing with too much nutrient for the plants and/or have too much lighting.
 
Dan's Fish in Sheridan Wyoming has a VERY good reputation as to 'mail order fish' but I've never actually had any delivered as I live next to their warehouse.

Dan's Fish does have 35 panda garra in stock.

I don't really know as to the plants as I'm a plant newbie but I really can't see why you couldn't use a soft sponge to wipe the leaves. If using you MAY be dosing with too much nutrient for the plants and/or have too much lighting.
I've already reduced lighting and just started fertilizers - which are helping stop the growth of new red cyano I think. I may try a sponge. Aquarium scrubbie is too rough on the leaves. Thank you. On mail order, I am waiting for temps around here to stabilize, we were over 100 degrees for 47 days. And my mail service is not good
 
I've already reduced lighting and just started fertilizers - which are helping stop the growth of new red cyano I think. I may try a sponge. Aquarium scrubbie is too rough on the leaves. Thank you. On mail order, I am waiting for temps around here to stabilize, we were over 100 degrees for 47 days. And my mail service is not good
I know about the mail in Ft. Worth! I lived there for ~7 years in the late 1980s-early 1990s. Dan's Fish does not use the postal service. They use next day UPS instead which makes shipping high cost. Shipping for up to 7 of these fish would be $29.95.
 
still thinking about whether to buy fish, I did some more reading on them and cyano doesn't look any safer for them to eat than any pleco. I don't want to kill them. Chinese algae eater is the one fish I know won't die eating black cyanobacteria. But they have a nasty temperament
 
I bought an Amano shrimp to clean up the 55's plants. Have 5 Panda Garra in a 10 gallon quarantine tank, they are about 1.5 inches long and the guy I got them from has had them about 4 months so fairly well quarantined already. and then I had an impulse buy and got 3 Buenos Aires Tetras, adults, set my old 29 gallon up with a sponge filter from the new 29, and some water from the 10 I took the healthy tetras (oh yeah, forgot to mention those, they moved to the 55) out of and out of my little catfish 10. will feed lightly for a day or 2 but it's not 100% new water and it should be ok. Try the Panda Garras in the 55 when I am sure they are healthy, my old Clown Pleco appreciates my caution.
 
I bought an Amano shrimp to clean up the 55's plants. Have 5 Panda Garra in a 10 gallon quarantine tank, they are about 1.5 inches long and the guy I got them from has had them about 4 months so fairly well quarantined already. and then I had an impulse buy and got 3 Buenos Aires Tetras, adults, set my old 29 gallon up with a sponge filter from the new 29, and some water from the 10 I took the healthy tetras (oh yeah, forgot to mention those, they moved to the 55) out of and out of my little catfish 10. will feed lightly for a day or 2 but it's not 100% new water and it should be ok. Try the Panda Garras in the 55 when I am sure they are healthy, my old Clown Pleco appreciates my caution.
Oh oh oh you got new fish too!! Photos when you can, please! The panda garras are so adorable, especially when they're wee!
The plants, I reckon a lot of the algae on the leaves is because it looks as though you have mainly anubius and java fern? Or crypt? Plus some floating plants? Since the anubius and Java ferns are slow growing and have thick leaves, it's easier for algae to take hold on the leaves and stick around and spread, and they both get worse when they're getting a lot of light. So in your shoes, with the cyano and other algaes on the anubius leaves especially, I'd remove the plant and use a very soft cloth or even cotton/muslin cloth and tank water to remove as much algae from the leaves, rhizome and roots as possible. I might also try removing them and trying a mild bleach solution that people use in a plant dip to try to kill off as much algae and cyano as possible. Anubius and java fern dipped briefly in the right amounts (would need to look up the amount to use and for how long) is tough and should be able to handle that. Alternatively, remove the plants from the tank temporarily and try the hydrogen peroxide cleaning method.

Any leaves that are badly coated and won't clean off after all that, I'd trim off of the plant. While I know it wouldn't eliminate the algae from the tank altogether, it would definitely reduce the amount of algae and cyano in there reproducing and spreading. It might also encourage a growth spurt in the main plant, like pruning an outdoor bush to shape it, you know? My horticultural friends tell me that cutting back a plant hard basically makes the plant go "oh no! I've lost tons of leaves and don't want to die, better put out a load of new shoots!" If it applies to terrestrial plants, I don't see why aquatic plants would be an exception.

Then I'd look to introduce some more shading for those anubius/java fern etc, like some faster growing stem plants that will absorb some of the organics, outcompete the algae, and provide some shade for the slow growing plants so they're less likely to get algae coated. A sheltering bush of vallis, L.sessiliflora, a sword plant, some crypts maybe? From what I can see in the photo, you seem to only have slow growing rhizome plants in there other than the floating plant, lots of anubius coffeefolia I think (my new favourite anubius, love the one I got recently!) and what I think is narrow leaf java fern? Or maybe a smallish cryptocoryne? All of those tend to get coated in algae when out in the open with no shade from the tank light.

That's just what I'd do in your shoes! You know me and that while I love planted tanks, I'm far from an expert. I can't wait to see all the new fish! :D
 
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I changed the tank light to a dimmer fluorescent so I think if I clean the plants up they will do ok, these are plants I've always grown, offspring from those I got 10 or 15 years ago, normally under fluorescent. the tank came with non-dimmable led lids and those are sitting in a box in my office where they shall remain unless I desperately need and then I will need to learn to order the right dimmer switch. I'll get some pics in a bit. got about 8 inches of rain here in less than 24 hours, I've been out manning sump pump and unburying the output from my french drain that grass grew over
 
Panda Garra, who do not like Hikari Algae wafers... (learn something new every day) My 55 with the Amano shrimp I can't see (it's on the driftwood), and its new red eye tetras fresh from quarantine to make room for panda garra to have a tank. Pretty sure I'm not expecting baby guppies. All my bronze corydoras now in the 29. New sand in with the baby Julii corydoras. and.... 3 Buenos Aires Tetras cycling the new quarantine home for the rest of the BA Tetras The sponge filter was cultured in my other 29, corner filter wasn't, but it will be fine. Pics aren't great. but...they are pics
 

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Panda Garra, who do not like Hikari Algae wafers... (learn something new every day) My 55 with the Amano shrimp I can't see (it's on the driftwood), and its new red eye tetras fresh from quarantine to make room for panda garra to have a tank. Pretty sure I'm not expecting baby guppies. All my bronze corydoras now in the 29. New sand in with the baby Julii corydoras. and.... 3 Buenos Aires Tetras cycling the new quarantine home for the rest of the BA Tetras The sponge filter was cultured in my other 29, corner filter wasn't, but it will be fine. Pics aren't great. but...they are pics

GAH! The panda garras are so adorable!! 😍 I want some now, lol. Really like the mollies that are with the bronze cories too! And wow! You did an amazing job cleaning up the algae in that tank, it really shows a huge difference. What method did you go with in the end for cleaning up the algae and stuff from the plant leaves?
 
GAH! The panda garras are so adorable!! 😍 I want some now, lol. Really like the mollies that are with the bronze cories too! And wow! You did an amazing job cleaning up the algae in that tank, it really shows a huge difference. What method did you go with in the end for cleaning up the algae and stuff from the plant leaves?
I didn't clean any algae yet, and I don't think the shrimp has. the 55 with the blue background has the plants with algae, it was the one that had the LED light with no dimmer.

The leaves with no algae never had any, they are in my 29 gallon with a fluorescent bulb. They have a little normal algae, very little, but no cyano. The housekeeping crew for the 29 are babies right now, several this size in the hex tank.

I do not like the LED lids. The 29 came with one too, it's in the box. No dimmer, looks like a launch pad, and I refuse to carpet all my tanks with frogbit just to tone the light down
 

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I didn't clean any algae yet, and I don't think the shrimp has. the 55 with the blue background has the plants with algae, it was the one that had the LED light with no dimmer.

The leaves with no algae never had any, they are in my 29 gallon with a fluorescent bulb. They have a little normal algae, very little, but no cyano. The housekeeping crew for the 29 are babies right now, several this size in the hex tank.

I do not like the LED lids. The 29 came with one too, it's in the box. No dimmer, looks like a launch pad, and I refuse to carpet all my tanks with frogbit just to tone the light down
My hood is also LED but does have intensity settings. Not like a true dial type dimmer but something like 6 settings.
 
I bought my tank setup for the 55 at petsmart, got the 29 with the led hood I didn't use from a guy that bought new and wasn't going to use, it was a petco package. These packages do not come with great lights, I found a couple of dimmers on amazon but haven't ordered one to try. not sure it's worth it.
 
I gave up. I think I have the cyanobacteria gone, I have rust colored and a little green algae, and my female albino bristle nose is now in the 55 doing the cleanup. to be honest after the last water change when I fed the plants, not a lot of new algae grew, but there was plenty of old stuff on the plants. She is a great housekeeper, pics when she finishes.
 

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