Chromide Cichlids

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Right, never even considered brackish before, but I have seen a few articles on Orange Chromides and I am totally in love with them. Just wondering what would be a minimum tank size for these guys, what kind of a setup would they thrive in and what would be good tank mates. I like mono's but they appear to end up pretty big so would probably not be able to house them sufficiently or comfortably. Obviously know about Mollies, would these be ok tank mates? Quite like the larger sail fins. Maybe a shoal of glass fish if I could find them? Also how much salt are we talking?

Fancy something different and thinking that brackish maybe it! Convince me people!

Thanks very much, David.
 
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Orange chromides don't need much salt to do well*; SG 1.002 at 25 C (5 g/litre) will be ample, and that's low enough you can keep them with all sorts of stuff. I'd opt for mostly medium-sized midwater species that aren't going to be harassed by them. Glassfish would be a good choice. Alternatively, provided the salinity was kept low as stated above, ticto barbs would be a colourful choice, as would virtually any of the hardier rainbowfish. Mollies should work, too. I wouldn't choose monos because monos need a big tank with fairly high salinity, and that wouldn't be easy to do with plants, and orange chromides will do best in a planted aquarium. Catfish and loaches aren't usually kept in brackish systems, but at SG 1.002 at 25 C, there are a good number of choices including brown hoplos and horseface loaches (the later need sand for digging though). Many of the spiny eels would work, too.

As for aquarium size, depends if you're keeping a pair or a singleton. Pairs are territorial, and obviously two males will fight. The species is not obviously sexually dimorphic, especially not in the case of the bright orange artificial form (the wild type is greenish with orange spots, turning black when breeding -- I think a more interesting looking animal, if not quite so colourful). Males do tend to be slightly more colourful when breeding, but the farmed specimens are so variable it's hard to tell a plain male from an unusually colourful female. In any event, a singleton or mated pair would be okay in, say, 75 litres, while you could keep a small group in something 150 litres or larger. By cichlid standards they aren't particularly aggressive, about on par with kribs.

Cheers, Neale

*Heiko Bleher has videoed at least one population living in freshwater its entire life, but the aquarium specimens at least are sensitive to water quality and chemistry issues, and slightly brackish water does seem to keep them healthier.
 
Thanks for your replies. I wouldn't keep them in freshwater as I don't think it would be fair. I might have a 90 litre tank going spare soon so was thinking of going brackish. I have seen the horsefaced coaches and loved them, would they be ok in this size tank also? Would hope for a pair of Chromides, with maybe a pair of the green sailfin mollies? Would hope for a wild pair tbh. Would there be anything else I could add or would that be pretty much my lot?

Thanks again for a great in depth reply. Cheers.
 
A pair of chromides will pretty much dominate the bottom layer of a 20 gallon tank, so I'd only keep them with surface fish they treat as dither fish. Mollies of the sailfin variety should do fine. Horseface loaches get quite large, easily 15 cm/6 inches, and potentially 20 cm/8 inches, so aren't suitable for anything less than 40, 50 gallons.

Cheers, Neale

Thanks for your replies. I wouldn't keep them in freshwater as I don't think it would be fair. I might have a 90 litre tank going spare soon so was thinking of going brackish. I have seen the horsefaced coaches and loved them, would they be ok in this size tank also? Would hope for a pair of Chromides, with maybe a pair of the green sailfin mollies? Would hope for a wild pair tbh. Would there be anything else I could add or would that be pretty much my lot?

Thanks again for a great in depth reply. Cheers.
 

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