Checking And Chanhing Water

[james morrisontoxic2]

waterdrop and vinylman thanks for your help and im glad i found this forum as your a good set of people

been a while but id just like to say ive lost no fish,and everything is fine thanks to all that helped me,ive now bought another tank and hope to buy a pair of piranahs,any one got any advice on them ive getting a book from the library but would like to hear your thoughts

 

[Corleone]

There's information on a few species under characins in the species index. The best place to ask about them would be the predatory section. Post the dimensions of the new tank, and somebody will be able to help you with a suitable species - the commonly sold redbellies will need something like 75 gallons, even for just one or two, but a wimple piranha can be kept in as small as 30 gallons, and a black rhom grows slowly enough to be started in a smaller tank than it'll eventually need. Just remember that if you're getting them for their feeding habits, look for an alternative, as they only frenzy when they're kept starving.

There's also exadons, which are closer to tetras than piranhas, but have teeth to match a piranha and are just as predatory.

 

[rabbut]

I wouldn't do any type of piranah common to the trade in anything smaller than 4ft, 75g personally, and a pair for most types will not work. Sooner or later, you will be left with one very stressed piranha left Most need groups of 5+ (But don't overstock or you will start looking them to agression, hence 75g minimum) and serious filtration. If you don't have a 4ft tank and at least two good canister filters, I would not consider it

They are obviously a species only job, unless you can find a large and robust plec...

All the best
Rabbut

 

[james morrisontoxic2]

corleone thanks very much very interesting

 

[james morrisontoxic2]

rabbut would a robust pleck be ok with pirranah,i would of thought they would of attacked it,as you can see im new to this but willing to listen

 

[rabbut]

Contarary to popular belief, piranha are not mean killing machiens, they are wimps Place a hand or move suddenly near the tank and they run for cover, unless it is the keeper or family member...

A robust plec is armored, and will react to being picked on by shoving a sharp fin in the face of the agressor. Because it will be the dominant piranha that first has a go, the other piranha will see the dominat one backing off after being attacked and decide that the new fish is best left alone. If there is going to be an issue, it will be at first introduction

Reduce the risk by feeding them up before introducing the plec, and leaving the lights out for an hour before starting it's aclimation, having blackened out the room. This will lead the piranha to leave the plec untill it is settled enough to stand-up for itself. It usualy works very well long-term, but there is always a risk. Watch carefully and be ready to get the plec out in a hurry if needs be You shouldn't need to though

Plecs have a armored body, so there isn't much the piranha can chew, so they almost always never bother... Isn't worth their effort to kill something with sharp fins that keep being shoved in their face when they get near (that a large plec will do, they are semi-terirorial and will defend their position in a tank) so they just don't go there.

All the best
Rabbut

 

[james morrisontoxic2]

rabbut thanks very much mate,i found that thread very interesting and its nice to be able to click a few buttons and get a response from some one like your self,i do get books from the library but different authors sometimes misslead you ,thanks once again