cardinal tetra time

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It's December, which means breeding season for cardinal tetras is underway. I have a shoal, and wanted 3 specific females out of my heavily planted 120 gallon. I spent two days off and on trying to catch them, but they are cagey creatures.
I use a trick where you leave a large net in the tank, and use a smaller net to drive the fish to it. I caught every other tetra and pencil fish in the tank, but not one cardinal.
This morning, I looked and 7 cardinals, including my 3 egg filled females, were sitting in the net just checking it out. So now, they are in a tannin stained 10 gallon at 26c, with very soft water. It's the same hardness some of them were hatched in last year. There's a grating so eggs will fall through uneaten. I'll give them 24 hours. We are having a violent wind and rainstorm, and the air pressure shifts are usually a trigger. To them, it may feel like the arrival of the seasonal rains.
Then the adults come out and the tank is dark for 5 days. I feed the void once the young are freeswimming, and keep it dark for another 5 days as tiny young cardinals are photophobic.

Last year, I learned a lot with these fish. Mostly, I learned what I did wrong that probably reduced a nice large spawn to a handful of individuals. This time, I'm hopeful, as you can never have too many cardinals. I have about 50 2 month old Pristella tetras, a handful of Hyphessobrycon peugotti, an undetermined number of glowlights from 2 weeks ago, and the same for Hyphessobrycon sp cherry red, where I can just see enough movement in their now dim tank to tell me there are some living.

So the next chapter in this tale should come in in about 10 days, maybe 12. Breeding tetras is not for the impatient. The lighting has to be dim to dark for many species, the fry are so small it is a strain to see them, and they take their time. If they make 3 weeks, they grow like bad ideas though.
 
Good idea regarding net. My dwarf coral platys are old enough to be sold to my local fish store. But they are clever creatures and very tough to net. Following Gary’s comments I just placed a large net in the juvenile tank. Tomorrow we will see what I harvest. Then off to the lfs.
 
I've done that as well ( 2 nets ), it works well, but I've never been lucky enough to come back the next day, with the fish I wanted, chillin in the net... if anything, every fish, but the one I wanted was in the net...

it's funny the fish still breed at the same time of the year, even though their geographic location changes significantly
 
Fish, like mammals, have what are called clock genes. These genes act either independent of environmental cues or with environmental cues to regulate circadian rhythms as well as seasonal rhythms. I assume fish spawning for some or all species is hard wired driven by clock genes.
 
Fish, like mammals, have what are called clock genes. These genes act either independent of environmental cues or with environmental cues to regulate circadian rhythms as well as seasonal rhythms. I assume fish spawning for some or all species is hard wired driven by clock genes.
Whatever the reason, if it works, don't question mother nature...in that regard, she is not unlike my wife :eek:!
 
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The clock genes seem triggered though. Cardinals never laid eggs in my communities. Females could become egg bound. But the arrival of softer water and for them, a sudden spike in temperatures has triggered the clock. I haven't tried at other times of year, as I only decided to try with cardinals when I had year old wilds, hatched at this time of year.

It's like with Cory group catfish - some species are bred by leaving them with no water changes for 2 or 3 weeks, and then hitting them with a cool water change to simulate the rains arriving.

But while it isn't my direct experience, I have been told they prefer to breed when the rainy season arrives.
 
Today, I started feeding small amounts of food to the dark water. This part of the process is frustrating, because I can't know how I succeeded. Or even if I did. It's more fun breeding non photo-phobic fish that can handle lights as eggs or larvae. Cichlids are so easy compared to this.

I have 2 dwarf Cichlids with eggs or larvae - both are cave spawners so there is some waiting there. I can tell what's up from the parents. But these cardinals, they keep you guessing.
 

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