Can We Have A Social Area? Or An 'everything Else Area'

Curiosity101

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Just wondering if we could have an 'everything else' or 'social lounge' area. For conversations that aren't necessarily always fish related but don't fit into the specific categories.

Or have we got one and I'm just being a bit dense?

Or...am I the only person that thinks it might be good to have one?
 
i think you`ll find that the answer will be NO as i belive it was tried before and failed ( arguments or summat)
live chat used to be good, dunno if it even works these days
 
i think there should be a nother section called off topic questions rather than general chat although there is a fine line between them, and i am unsure how long it would take for it to turn into a general chat area :/
 
I did wonder if maybe it had been tried and failed already.

All I was thinking was that there have been a few times where I've thought 'oo I want to mention', and then thought 'Well there is nowhere appropriate to put it'. Stupidly I can't think of any examples right now..figures, but there have definitely been times.

Btw shelaghfishface, Bo is loverly :wub:

Oh wait I remember, recently I wanted to post something really nice about Wilder as she's such a star when it comes to diagnosing fish. She religiously posts in tropical fish emergencies and I wouldn't be surprised if she's saved 100's of fishy lives in the process. I was going to knock up something in photoshop to say congrats.
 
aww thankyou, ill tell him you said so :)

think it would also include a heck of a lot more moderating than diss does
Wilder has saved more than a few of my fish, if it wasnt for her id have thrown the towel in long ago,shes a complete star :) love her to bits.
 
I did wonder if maybe it had been tried and failed already.

All I was thinking was that there have been a few times where I've thought 'oo I want to mention', and then thought 'Well there is nowhere appropriate to put it'. Stupidly I can't think of any examples right now..figures, but there have definitely been times.

Btw shelaghfishface, Bo is loverly :wub:

Oh wait I remember, recently I wanted to post something really nice about Wilder as she's such a star when it comes to diagnosing fish. She religiously posts in tropical fish emergencies and I wouldn't be surprised if she's saved 100's of fishy lives in the process. I was going to knock up something in photoshop to say congrats.

i know what you mean, like when there was a thread about A-levels, and i have also seen insurance questions etc. that is when another section would be needed...
 
Sorry guys this just ain't going happen for the foreseeable future at least. It has been debated many many times upstairs between the Mods and the general census is that it's way too much of a hassle to have to keep going in and breaking up disputes etc. If folks would only conduct themselves in a proper and appropriate manner then there would be no problem re-instating such a dedicated section. You can however utilise the Chat area if you so wish but again keep to the rules or that may disappear also
Regards
C
 
Sorry guys this just ain't going happen for the foreseeable future at least. It has been debated many many times upstairs between the Mods and the general census is that it's way too much of a hassle to have to keep going in and breaking up disputes etc. If folks would only conduct themselves in a proper and appropriate manner then there would be no problem re-instating such a dedicated section. You can however utilise the Chat area if you so wish but again keep to the rules or that may disappear also
Regards
C


Is there no way of admin/mods approving members proir to them viewing the 'general chat' area? Maybe having a prerequisite number of posts? or a minimum age limit? I know that wont stop all fighting/difference of opinions from forming, but it may cut down on the amount of flaming that would go on by members that arent that bothered about this site.

For example I enjoy being here, and would'nt do anything to compromise my membership, so I'd behave :D whereas a newbie with 5 or 10 posts to their name, might not care what they say, hence starting a fight.

Or maybe we could have an 'anything else' section, where issues like politics and religion are barred, and anyone talking about them loses access to that section? Those two subjects will always split a crowd, and it'll always be subjective.

On a personal note, I would like a general chat section, as I was going to make a thread a week or so ago, to see if there are any cigar smokers on here (as I have just started) but without the correct section to put it in, I did'nt bother.

I was'nt around the first time it was attempted, so forgive me if my ideas have already been tried and failed.
 
Some good points there Gaz and I can fully understand where you are coming from. And I'm sure you and a great many others like you would not like to compromise their membership by getting into petty disputes that serve no purpose whatsoever. I wouldn't mind having such an area myself but the Croix of the matter is that there will always be trouble no matter what the given subject. In an ideal world where folks would behave then yes there would be no problem resurrecting a GC area but it has been proven on this site that folks just cant see by holding such petty disputes only serves to mar the enjoyment for the rest of the membership the exact consequence which led to its withdrawal last time.
I cant raise the matter again upstairs as its too recent and the motion was voted down not so long ago, so it would be pointless even to try.
Thats not to mean that if you the membership can come up with a plan that would be virtually watertight and a set of rules and ideas to combat such activity then the powers that be may sit up and take notice, but it would have to be good and pretty much self policing as Mod time and duties need to be spent elsewhere.
Always willing to listen
BigC
 
I have too much free time, C you requested so you will receive:

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Anyone think there is anything not covered by these rules that they would like to add?
 
Other than needing a huge amount of time(and good eyesight) to read it all Saltynay, nope, nothing to add LOL. My eyes aren't feeling too good however.
 
Other than needing a huge amount of time(and good eyesight) to read it all Saltynay, nope, nothing to add LOL. My eyes aren't feeling too good however.

lol, i thought the same thing. It would be better if you could shorten it into bullet points, or set it out in an easier to read format.
 
lol, i thought the same thing. It would be better if you could shorten it into bullet points, or set it out in an easier to read format.

No one is going to read it anyway..... The parts in orange and red are the summation so the bullet points on what isn't allowed :rolleyes:

I am at 1920x1200 resolution so this only takes up approx 4 inches on the screen seems quite short to me....
 
Only issue with rules is that they usually get stuck in a pin, that few people actually bother to read before posting... Perhapse there is a way to force people to read the rules before they can post in that section?

Also, few people are likely to read that massive chunk of test even if you attempt to force them. I think you need to get the rules more to the point if they are to be serviceable :sad:

All the best
Rabbut
 

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