Thanks for that Miss Wiggle, I am planning to change 30% of the water tonight, and keep a close eye on the fish. Does it matter that the food whirls around the surface of the water quite fast? Eventually it just drops to the bottom of the tank. Will this then suck into the filter?
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Miss Wiggle
Practically perfect in every way
there shouldn't be any 'eventually' when it comes to feeding, that measn you are overfeeding. only put in as much as the fish will eat in a couple fo minutes, it should be like a feeding frenzy, if food has time to drop to the bottom (unless of course it's food designde to sink for catfish and such like) then you're overfeeding
I mean like the food spins round the tank a bit, then drops, if you get me.
What im basically saying is that does it matter if the food spins roudn the tank quite fast? Do you think the fish will be able to get the food while its moving?
What im basically saying is that does it matter if the food spins roudn the tank quite fast? Do you think the fish will be able to get the food while its moving?
Miss Wiggle
Practically perfect in every way
surley you can answer that yourself, put some food in the tank, do the fish manage to get to it?
i strongly suspect that it's fine, most filters will swirl the water around the tank quite a bit, and common goldies and danio's are both decent swimmers but like i said, if the food is in the tank for more than a minute and it's not been eaten then your feeding too much
i strongly suspect that it's fine, most filters will swirl the water around the tank quite a bit, and common goldies and danio's are both decent swimmers but like i said, if the food is in the tank for more than a minute and it's not been eaten then your feeding too much
Thanks for that.
Right I've just changed the water and accidently poured it too fast, disturbed the gravel and the waters gone cloudy
Shall I change all the water or let it run its course? Also the filter is heating up the water
Right I've just changed the water and accidently poured it too fast, disturbed the gravel and the waters gone cloudy
Shall I change all the water or let it run its course? Also the filter is heating up the water
Hiya again, I know your probably getting really annoyed with all the questions but mehh its a forum 
I have replaced the water and basically started from scratch. The filter I have includes a sponge, but it is very porous in the sense that the holes are quite big. http
/www.petco.com/Assets/product_images...1556110132B.jpg
Would it be ok if I used a makeshift sponge with smaller holes, i.e washing up sponge?
Cheers
I have replaced the water and basically started from scratch. The filter I have includes a sponge, but it is very porous in the sense that the holes are quite big. http
/www.petco.com/Assets/product_images...1556110132B.jpgWould it be ok if I used a makeshift sponge with smaller holes, i.e washing up sponge?
Cheers
Miss Wiggle
Practically perfect in every way
means the gravels not been washed properly before it goes in, you'll probably get this every time you disturb the gravel for a few months now
that pics too small to see what you mean properly, however if you wish to replace the sponge now you can, don't use a washing up sponge they often come with some detergent ingrained which is bad, but you can buy any other brand of sponge from the lfs and cut it to fit.
when your filters mature you shouldn't change the media as you throw away all the bacteria that are keeping the tank healthy, however as the bacteria have not built up yet if there's ever a time to do it it's now.
what you realy want to aim for with media is the biggest surface area possible so you have the most room to grow bacteria, so a sponge with smaller holes is likely to be more effective
that pics too small to see what you mean properly, however if you wish to replace the sponge now you can, don't use a washing up sponge they often come with some detergent ingrained which is bad, but you can buy any other brand of sponge from the lfs and cut it to fit.
when your filters mature you shouldn't change the media as you throw away all the bacteria that are keeping the tank healthy, however as the bacteria have not built up yet if there's ever a time to do it it's now.
what you realy want to aim for with media is the biggest surface area possible so you have the most room to grow bacteria, so a sponge with smaller holes is likely to be more effective
Thanks for that, may get a new sponge tomorrow. I have now put a plant pot over the output of the filter which has dramatically dropped the current in the tank.
The thing is, when I feed the fish, they go to get food and when they go back to the bottom, they drag pieces of food with them, which then swirl around the tank a bit. Will this make the water cloudy or will the fish just eat the food?
Cheers
The thing is, when I feed the fish, they go to get food and when they go back to the bottom, they drag pieces of food with them, which then swirl around the tank a bit. Will this make the water cloudy or will the fish just eat the food?
Cheers
Tokis-Phoenix
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I would advise breaking up the food into smaller peices and perhaps feeding them a bit less if they do this. If you overfeed the fish, then food will inevitably be left uneaten and then rot in the substrate- any food left uneaten after a couple of minutes should be removed from the tank, as fish food in general turns foul very quickly in tank water.
Cheers for the info.
Im a little confused here, reading around it says to clean the gravel weekly with a gravel vacuum, but on other sites it says not to because it will remove the good bacteria?
What do you actually do
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Im a little confused here, reading around it says to clean the gravel weekly with a gravel vacuum, but on other sites it says not to because it will remove the good bacteria?
What do you actually do
Cheers
chilledtim
Fish Fanatic
Do gravel vac the gravel or a sludge will build up over months, the bacteria will be fine. Its like umm........ blowing crumbs off a chopping board, it will leave it clean but there will still be bacteria all over it, most of the bacteria cant just be blown or sucked away but the bigger bread crumbs/fish waste will be.
I think the gravel has a smaller amount of bacteria in it anyway as it doesnt have the oxegen flow over it like the filter so the gravel bacteria is more of an overflow/backup colony
I think the gravel has a smaller amount of bacteria in it anyway as it doesnt have the oxegen flow over it like the filter so the gravel bacteria is more of an overflow/backup colony
Hiya guys, sorry for bringing up old ground.
In my LFS, "Pets At Home", there is an 11 litre tank with 2 goldfish in it
They just sit at the bottom and occasionly swim round but they look perfectly healthy, just miserable
Now I have a 7.6 Gallon tank with one small goldy in it and I really want to rescue these guys. Would my tank be sufficient for them for say 2-3 months? I really feel sorry for them everytime I go in that store, and surely my tank would be better for them than the 11 litre?
Thanks
In my LFS, "Pets At Home", there is an 11 litre tank with 2 goldfish in it
They just sit at the bottom and occasionly swim round but they look perfectly healthy, just miserable Now I have a 7.6 Gallon tank with one small goldy in it and I really want to rescue these guys. Would my tank be sufficient for them for say 2-3 months? I really feel sorry for them everytime I go in that store, and surely my tank would be better for them than the 11 litre?
Thanks
GoldLenny
Fishaholic
NO! Your tank is not big enough for even your single goldfish, much less three of them.
If you want to rescue them and save your own, go get a 55G, 4' long tank, which will be good for three small goldfish for a year or two depending on your tank maintenance and their genetics. After that, you may find that you need a 90+G tank for three fancy goldfish... and 150G for three long-bodied goldfish.
Hopefully, someone will come along with a big tank or a big budget and save them soon. We still need to get your own goldfish and tank in proper working order.
Hopefully by now, you've purchased a gravel vacuum and you are vacuuming your gravel at least weekly. Your goldfish should be able to catch and eat any food you feed it. Any that does make it down to the gravel will be foraged by the goldfish. My fancies spend an hour after every meal sucking and foraging at the gravel making sure they didn't miss a single morsel or crumb.
If you want to rescue them and save your own, go get a 55G, 4' long tank, which will be good for three small goldfish for a year or two depending on your tank maintenance and their genetics. After that, you may find that you need a 90+G tank for three fancy goldfish... and 150G for three long-bodied goldfish.
Hopefully, someone will come along with a big tank or a big budget and save them soon. We still need to get your own goldfish and tank in proper working order.
Hopefully by now, you've purchased a gravel vacuum and you are vacuuming your gravel at least weekly. Your goldfish should be able to catch and eat any food you feed it. Any that does make it down to the gravel will be foraged by the goldfish. My fancies spend an hour after every meal sucking and foraging at the gravel making sure they didn't miss a single morsel or crumb.
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