Brine Shrimp Breeding...

Pysgodyn

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I have 2 week old guppies (20 of them!), and having read on here that baby brine shrimp are good for them, I went out to try and find some. The closest I got was a box of "Sea monkeys" and "live adults". I left the Sea Monkeys where they were as I know they're 'tampered' with in order to get them to live in unnatural conditions. GM?!

So, I bought a tube of live brine shrimp. I've selected a few small ones that I've fed the fry with (using a pipette to pick them up) - and they love them! Caused a few 'fights' in the tank! If I leave the rest in a tupperware pot at room temperature, can they breed?...or do I need to make any special provisions for them. They're currently in the water they were sold in (salt).

Would be grateful for any suggestions :fun:
 
EDIT: after rereading the post a little more carefully, i guess your question is if you can leave the brine shrimp you bought in there to breed...the answer would be no, they will die within a couple weeks in that solution

to be honest, raising baby brine shrimp is a lot of work....you should be able to find frozen baby brine shrimp and frozen daphnia that would be cheaper in the long run and they would enjoy just as much....

you can also buy some "liquifry" or "first bites" which is a solid, almost powdered dry food....

you an also grind up flakes to a powder and use them...

there are a lot of options, raising brine shrimp being the least economical and most difficult IMO
 
Lovely. Thanks for your replies. I've actually raised them on Liquifry (2&3) so far, and was just looking at some of the other stuff they could have. Knowing that it's probably more hassle than it's worth, they'll probably end up having the smallest adults I can fish out, and the others will go in the main tank for the adult fish.

It was worth asking ;) :)
 
Pysgodyn said:
Lovely. Thanks for your replies. I've actually raised them on Liquifry (2&3) so far, and was just looking at some of the other stuff they could have. Knowing that it's probably more hassle than it's worth, they'll probably end up having the smallest adults I can fish out, and the others will go in the main tank for the adult fish.

It was worth asking ;) :)
no problem... you should really try the frozen baby brine shrimp - it is so much fun watching them eat it...daphnia too!
 
Have you tried hatching brine shrimp eggs? This can be pretty easy and a great source of food for baby fish which sounds like what you are trying to do.

You can buy a tube of baby brine shrimp eggs at most LFS. All you need to do is rig you up a hatchery which I will also better explain further on. The eggs are sold in two ways that I have seen here at my LFS.
1.) in a clear tube with directions on how to hatch. Here you need to have salt , a container (will explian) an air supply and patience.
2.) now you can buy a pack of eggs with the salt mix already in the bag. This comes in a bag with three individual bags inside. Three hatches total. Here you have no need for the salt. It's already mixed which in most cases (from experience ) can make a diff. on the hatching of the eggs. Too much or not enough can really make a diff. So this is the better way to go if you are a beginer at hatching brine. Just add water and wait. Again patience this can be a trail and error type deal. It was for me way,way back. LOL

You will need:
- 2 2-litter bottles w/ 1 cap (soda bottles) PLASTIC !
- a piece of plastic tube about 2" (kind used on under gravel filter tubes, goes
inside and airline connects to? ) yea, that one :D
- air line
- air supply with air supply valve
- brine shrimp eggs
aquarium salt NOTE: depending on which type of eggs you buy. A tube of only eggs or a already mixed and packaged eggs and salt mix.

Now here is what you do:
1.) get a plastic 2 litter bottle w/cap and cut off the bottom right about were it begins to curve for the base. CAREFULLY cut do not cut of finger in the process. :eek:
2.)remove the cap, make a small hole in the center of the cap. NOTE: hole must be smaller if poss. than tubing. this can be done with a small screw. push a piece of the plastic tubing into the cap. Leaving about 1/2" exposed on the bottom and about 1/4" inside the bottle. Using some sealeant seal the edge of the tube and cap to prevent water leaks.
3.) cut the second 2-litter for the base of the hatchery. you will then cit a small hole on the base to put the airline through.
4.) connect airline to the plastic tube prior to putting the base on. And push the other end through the hole at the base.
5.) connect the airline to your air supply, fill with water,turn on air and regulate.
6.) check connections to assure no leaks where tubing goes into cap. If so, you may need to make some ajustments to the connection / seal.
7.) add brine shrimp eggs and salt. (following directions) if NOT using pre-mixed eggs/ salt. ajust the air flow to where the eggs are gently turning and NOT bubbling over the top. Hatch time depends on water temp and type of eggs used. Normaly 24-48hrs. DEPENDING on temp.

will try and take a picture of mine and post it here shortly. hope this helps/ makes sense. LOL Never tried the liquid stuff but will in the future. :) Does sound alot easier and less time/mess.
hatchery.jpg
 
right, so you get 3 hatches per package (which aren't that cheap really)....but aren't they only good for a couple days and then you have to start the process again? ....and if you are breeding on even a fairly large scale you have to have multiple breeding things setup at different times so you have a constant supply, right?

just doesn't seem very worthwhile to do it for guppy fry..when i said it is a lot of work..i did not mean that it was difficult to do, but that you have to keep raising them, and re-setting up your bottles, etc
 
Eh, hatching brine shrimp is a piece of cake and can actually be fun if you're as interested in and dedicated to the hobby as some folks ;)
I'd say that, if it's something you're interested in doing for your little fry, give it a shot... it's not like it's gonna break the bank for you to try it, and there's nothing that says you have to keep it up if you think it's too much trouble :)

Edit: Btw, you only need one 2-liter bottle if you're going to make a smaller hatchery; just cut the top off 1/3rd of the way down and invert that, using the other 2/3rds of the bottle as the base. This is how I set my hatchery up since my family doesn't normally buy 2-liter drinks, and it's plenty big enough to hatch enough shrimp to feed my betta fry 5 times a day :nod:
I just rinse it out and set it up again at night, and by morning the shrimp are hatching again.
 
I agree it is some work involved but, I have tried the frozen and the results in growth rate just were'nt the same. I just started buying the three pack which cost 2.99. Which one hatch last about 4 days. Now that depends on how many fish are being fed. Right now 4 days feeding: 1. ) 5 Apisto tanks. 2.) elec. yellow fry 3.) Hap. Emerald Fire fry 4.) Pund. Nyererei Luaso Island fry 5.) juli. regani fry 6.) Hap. Red tail sheller fry 7.) Pund. Ruti Island fry.8.) Astatotilapia pangani river blk. fry. But, i already have a system down which can make a diff. I use most of the bottle that way I can mix my own at a higher ratio if need be. Yes, it is alot more work thatn frozen but the results and fun you get watching them chomp is worth every effort. Depending on the fry I currently have I may run a second hatchery. Though it may be / seem like alot of work it IMO is well worth it in the long run.
Though I will be trying the liquid stuff. Got a fresh batch of fry which are tiny. Good time to try the liquid stuff. Any perticular brand?

The resson I got 2 bottles is the set up worked better with a bigger base and larger holding space. Though as mentioned a single bottle will work just fine. All depending on the ratio mixed I guess. I may tend to mix a heavy batch depending on the fish to feed.

How long does a hatch last with 5 bettas?

danny
 
Danny - the lost soul--- said:
1. ) 5 Apisto tanks. 2.) elec. yellow fry 3.) Hap. Emerald Fire fry 4.) Pund. Nyererei Luaso Island fry 5.) juli. regani fry 6.) Hap. Red tail sheller fry 7.) Pund. Ruti Island fry.8.) Astatotilapia pangani river blk. fry.
thats a lot of fry!
 
Danny - the lost soul--- said:
How long does a hatch last with 5 bettas?

danny
Hehe, I think you misread... that's 5 times a day that I feed them, not 5 bettas :p
I've got roughly 50 to 75 fry right now, and they'll be two weeks old on Thursday. I've been using brine eggs that come in a little bottle, but I use the equivalent of about half of one of those packets and it lasts me three days... after that the brine are a bit too big for those little mouths ;)
 

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