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Hello, I have been thinking of starting a with apistogrammas. I want to use indian almond leaves and indian almond bark. I worry that if I do a water change, my apistos would fall into shock and die since my tap water obviously doesnt have tannins in it. How do i do a water change without messing around with the ph too much?
 
Performing water changes with water that isn’t tannin-stained is not a problem. Replacing with water that has very different Gh and Kh values is the issue. Just make sure that the new water has similar hardness to that of the tank. You can, of course, soak botanicals in the new water if you like, but it’s not necessary. I use rooibos tea (the kind for drinking with nothing else added) to darken my water after a water change. Have you measured the Gh and Kh of your tap?
 
I had pretty good luck using rooibos to add tannins, and there's no reason you couldn't do that with your new water. But I agree that it probably isn't necessary.
 
Unless you are planning to keep wild caught Aistogramma cichlids, there is no need for black water. Just have soft neutral to slightly acidic water (GH below 150ppm, pH between 6.5-7.4) and they will be fine.
 
First, for any discussion or help, we need to know if you are changing the hardness of the water when you do changes. pH and tannin levels are secondary to mineral content when it comes to Apistogramma. My tap is soft and acidic, and I could keep any Apistogramma, and breed most of them if I wanted to. When I was getting a lot of blackwater Apistos and trying to breed them in my old house, where the water was moderately hard and alkaline, I had to use RO and rainwater/snow melt, and there I had to be calculating with every weekly water change. It all depends on the water going in.

Tannins are almost decorative, although they can be used to trigger spawning. You may not have fish breeding on your agenda...

If your choice of species is limited by what the fishfarms produce, I would agree with @Colin_T , as long as you weren't breeding them. The industry has weeded out the difficult species. If you aren't in Australia like him, and can get fish from the wild (only a very few Apistos are captive produced) then you need to really know and understand your water. So which species of Apisto is important. Apisto cacatuoides or borellii can handle most water, while bitaeniata or njisseni will have shortened lives and no breeding in moderately hard water. For a fish farmer, the species only needs to reach adult size and get to market. What happens after that is of no concern to them. Lifespan matters to us though.

So your question draws questions. What is your tapwater/source water like? Which species has your eye?
 
I currently dont know the parameters of my tap water because i dont have a test kit on me, i will be buying one soon though so I can be sure.
First, for any discussion or help, we need to know if you are changing the hardness of the water when you do changes. pH and tannin levels are secondary to mineral content when it comes to Apistogramma. My tap is soft and acidic, and I could keep any Apistogramma, and breed most of them if I wanted to. When I was getting a lot of blackwater Apistos and trying to breed them in my old house, where the water was moderately hard and alkaline, I had to use RO and rainwater/snow melt, and there I had to be calculating with every weekly water change. It all depends on the water going in.

Tannins are almost decorative, although they can be used to trigger spawning. You may not have fish breeding on your agenda...

If your choice of species is limited by what the fishfarms produce, I would agree with @Colin_T , as long as you weren't breeding them. The industry has weeded out the difficult species. If you aren't in Australia like him, and can get fish from the wild (only a very few Apistos are captive produced) then you need to really know and understand your water. So which species of Apisto is important. Apisto cacatuoides or borellii can handle most water, while bitaeniata or njisseni will have shortened lives and no breeding in moderately hard water. For a fish farmer, the species only needs to reach adult size and get to market. What happens after that is of no concern to them. Lifespan matters to us though.

So your question draws questions. What is your tapwater/source water like? Which species has your eye?
 
The GH (general hardness), KH (carbonate hardness) and pH of your water supply can usually be obtained from your water supply company's website (Water Analysis Report) or by telephoning them. If they can't help you, take a glass full of tap water to the local pet shop and get them to test it for you. Write the results down (in numbers) when they do the tests. And ask them what the results are in (eg: ppm, dGH, or something else).
 

It looks like hard water to me - so the tannins would do nothing other than have a cosmetic use. If you like the colour, you'll have that.
 

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