Black Ghost Knife, Very Worried

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My foot-long black ghost knife looks like someone covered him in glue!, he's got funny patches of light peeley looking stuff all over him, this seems to have happened over night. just charging my camera to get a photo of him, will post again.
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Check water stats, ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, ph.

Is it like yellow sparkly slime, white cotton wool, white grains of salt...

yellow sparkly slime is velvet
white cotton wool is fugal rot
grains of salt is white spot.

Id get some pics up asap, then you can head out to the LF store to get the appropriate meds for what ever it turns out to be asap and start treating him
 
Its got none of those things!, i already know what whitespot, cottonmouth etc looks like from other fish ive had.
This, ive never seen before, it looks just like when you have glue on your hands and your peeling it off!
it seems to be changing very quickly too, some of it has come off now since this morning!
 
Sounds like the fish is producing excessive amounts of protective slime coat in a reaction to something in the tank that is irritating or stressing the fish out.
You need to test the tank for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and ph ASAP and post the exact results back here, also can you give us more info on your situation like size of tank, types, sizes and number of inhabitants in it, how long it has been set up for, tank cleaning maintanence regime etc :) ?
 
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/stabby.jpg

Theres a picture, the tank is a little scratched so ignore the white dots,
look around his eye and on his back,
The scratches on his side are also new this morning, could this be something else? the two scratches behind his side fins are old scars from a goby he didnt get along with a while back, they are healed and havent cause any problems.

Weve had the tank set up for about 6 months, its about 5ft long, there are plants and rocks, we have a large fluval filter and an undergravel filter.
He is accompanyed by a plec, 4 parrot fish, a large angel fish and a black banded leporinus.
 
Have you seen any agressive behaviour between the other fish in the tank towards the knife fish? What is the current temp in the tank and has it changed at all in the last week?
With the scratches, if the fish has external parasites like flukes then it could have deliberately scratched itself on something in the tank in an attempt to itch the flukes off, causing scratches in the process. Does the discolouration on the fish look like it is dusted onto the fish at all? Keep an eye out for any flicking/rubbing/scratching behvariour the fish may be displaying.
It is also important to buy some accurate test kits for water quality and test that as soon as you can and post the stats back here.

How often do you do water changes on the tank and how much do you take out on average and do you dechlorinate the water? Do you use salt in the tank at all? How often do you clean the substrate/gravel in the tank?

The tank is long enough for the knifefish, but how wide is it also?
 
Will do the water tests, the water is tap safed, we do a 20% water change every two months, water temp is 26.5 degrees. no salt in the water. The tank is approx 18" deep and about 22" high (odd size tank, I know)

Haven't seen any agreessive behaviour between the fish, the blood parrots tend to keep out of the way of the BGK, although i have noticed the plec has been bothering him a bit recently and keeps attaching himself to him (like when they suck on the glass). Stabby quite clearly doesnt like this and usually buggers off to the other end of the tank.

The tank is due for a clean, but will cleaning it now while he's already under stress be the right thing to do?
 
Will do the water tests, the water is tap safed, we do a 20% water change every two months, water temp is 26.5 degrees. no salt in the water. The tank is approx 18" deep and about 22" high (odd size tank, I know)

Haven't seen any agreessive behaviour between the fish, the blood parrots tend to keep out of the way of the BGK, although i have noticed the plec has been bothering him a bit recently and keeps attaching himself to him (like when they suck on the glass). Stabby quite clearly doesnt like this and usually buggers off to the other end of the tank.

The tank is due for a clean, but will cleaning it now while he's already under stress be the right thing to do?





You will need a wider tank in the future, preferably at least 24inches wide, since the knife fish can grow to 20inches+ long so will have difficulty turning around in a tank less than 2ft wide.

The pleco problem is a problem that won't be helping the knifefish in any way and you don't want the knife fish to be getting stressed out, do the pleco and knifefish both have their own caves where their can take refuge in or do they have to share the same cave or have no caves in the tank at all? What do you feed the pleco and how much on average and how large is the pleco?

A once 2monthly water change though is not anywhere near enough i'm afraid- you should really be aiming to do a 30-60% water change once a week with fish like yours. Not during regular enough water changes means that organic waste will build up in the tank (particularly in the substrate) over time which can harbor diseases and effect the ph of the tank, so it is important to do regular water changes to help ensure these problems do not come about- during regular water changes is more about making sure the tank and its inhabitants stay in optimum health in the long term :nod: .
You will also see better growth rates from your fish by doing more regular water changes too- many fish in the hobby come from habitats in the wild which experience dry and wet seasons, and many fish will not grow much during the dry seasons for numerous reasons- not doing water changes for months at a time will create dry season conditions in the tank (like build up of organic particles and matter, which the fish can sense) and so the fishes growth will slow down and may even become stunted in the long term.

The best thing to do right now until you can test your water quality is to clean the substrate in the tank, do a 30-40% water change with dechlorinator, and clean out the filters sponges in old tank water taken from the tank (remember not to over-clean the filter sponges though, just clean them enough to make sure the filter runs smoothely, if you over-clean the sponges or clean them in undechlorinated tank water you could kill off too much of the beneficial bacteria residing in the sponges, which could cause the tank to mini-cycle etc).
The water change may cause a minor amount of stress to the knifefish while you are doing it, but it will have a lot of benefets for the knifefish so is well worth doing :nod: .
 
So, ill clean the tank today, Should i try him in a salt bath for the white bits and scratches? how much salt to water?
 
So, ill clean the tank today, Should i try him in a salt bath for the white bits and scratches? how much salt to water?



Nah the best thing would be to avoid the salt and to just do lots of regular water changes, these will have less stress on the fish and will help ensure the fishes wounds heal up cleanly- if you are worried about secondary infection setting into the fishes wounds, then the best thing would be to add a little Melafix to the tank (this med is good at helping heal physical injuries and small external infections on fish etc) :good: .
 

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