Black And Neon Tetra Help

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Hey, i have 2 types of tetra in my tank, 8 neon and 4 black. they are very similar, and i expected them to shoal together but they dont, in fact the 4 black tetras have split and swim around solo instead of in a 2nd shoal. does anybody know why this is or how i can help them be more solcial ? my tank is heavily planted with some bogwood and a cave.
 
Hey, i have 2 types of tetra in my tank, 8 neon and 4 black. they are very similar, and i expected them to shoal together but they dont, in fact the 4 black tetras have split and swim around solo instead of in a 2nd shoal. does anybody know why this is or how i can help them be more solcial ? my tank is heavily planted with some bogwood and a cave.

Black neon tetras Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi are a significantly different species than neon tetras Paracheirodon innesi, and shoaling usually doesn't occur across species. Fish use a lot of visual cues to stick together (a large reason fish will sometimes have a distinctive spot or splash of color on the tip of one fin), and since the two groups don't look like one another, they won't shoal together until stressed -- i.e. if they feel enough of a threat or stress that shoaling with un-alike fish seems like a better idea than not shoaling at all.

The last point leads to a second point, that shoaling is generally a defensive position. My fish tightly shoaled for about a week or so, and after they got used to their new hole almost never tightly shoal anymore. The large amount of plants and caves are a large reason for this -- they feel comfortable enough that a quick hiding place is nearby if needed that they don't have to revert to shoaling as a defense anymore. Shoaling really and truly is a strategy based on each individual fish thinking "well, some of us are probably going to get eaten, at least if we're in a large enough group, chances are pretty low that I'll be the specific one eaten." If you've given them a comfortable enough home, they don't have to revert to that mindset anymore. I'd personally be happy that they aren't shoaling -- it tells me that they feel very safe in the surroundings you've put them in.
 
Hey, i have 2 types of tetra in my tank, 8 neon and 4 black. they are very similar, and i expected them to shoal together but they dont, in fact the 4 black tetras have split and swim around solo instead of in a 2nd shoal. does anybody know why this is or how i can help them be more solcial ? my tank is heavily planted with some bogwood and a cave.

Black neon tetras Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi are a significantly different species than neon tetras Paracheirodon innesi, and shoaling usually doesn't occur across species. Fish use a lot of visual cues to stick together (a large reason fish will sometimes have a distinctive spot or splash of color on the tip of one fin), and since the two groups don't look like one another, they won't shoal together until stressed -- i.e. if they feel enough of a threat or stress that shoaling with un-alike fish seems like a better idea than not shoaling at all.

The last point leads to a second point, that shoaling is generally a defensive position. My fish tightly shoaled for about a week or so, and after they got used to their new hole almost never tightly shoal anymore. The large amount of plants and caves are a large reason for this -- they feel comfortable enough that a quick hiding place is nearby if needed that they don't have to revert to shoaling as a defense anymore. Shoaling really and truly is a strategy based on each individual fish thinking "well, some of us are probably going to get eaten, at least if we're in a large enough group, chances are pretty low that I'll be the specific one eaten." If you've given them a comfortable enough home, they don't have to revert to that mindset anymore. I'd personally be happy that they aren't shoaling -- it tells me that they feel very safe in the surroundings you've put them in.

Oh thank you! i was kinda worried about them lol i thought they shoaled all the time to be safe but all my fish are very friendly community fish and there is plenty of hiding places and the tank is heavily planted . thank you for your help!
 

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