BEST BETTA FOOD EVER!!!

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for the love of god it was only tiny pieces and at the end of the day they are his fish so let him do what he wants to do.

he isnt going to intentionally kill them so whats the harm really?

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no one is telling him what to do...we are all expressing our opinions, didn't know it wasn't aloud on the forum

 

[SRC]

he isn’t going to intentionally kill them so what’s the harm really?

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So, with that mentality...of not suggesting things to people to keep them from hurting other living things due to "not knowing" it would hurt them.....you're saying that it's ok that mother's not be told it's wrong to leave their children in cars " just for a few minutes" while they run in the store or take the groceries in..so that they don't come back 15 minutes later to a dead child..from heat exhaustion? You're saying that because they "wouldn’t harm them intentionally" that nothing should be said before they do harm them.. because they wouldn't do anything intentionally? Did you know most accidents happen because the person "didn't know" it would happen?

That is stupid. How do you think you stop "accidents" from happening? You tell someone it could happen before it does. That's what we were doing. If he wants to feed his fish pizza crust and risk killing his fish..by all means let him..I just don't want to see a thread by him in a week "OMG my fish are constipated and peas aren't working!!!!..what do I do". You do realize that fishes stomach is about the size of the head of a pin. And that bread swells greatly when wet and in your stomach (that's why you feel so full after eating bread)...and what do you think that will do inside them if they eat too much..and we all know bettas would neeeeever over eat themselves . It could work out kinda like pigeons eating rice at weddings.... *boom*.


Giving dogs chocolate is extremely bad..I don't care how long you did it. Regular chocolate has chocolate liquor in it made from cococoa..which is toxic to dogs. You yourself can intake small doses of rat poison over many years too..and it might not hurt you..but would you want someone feeding it to you..just because it was in something that you liked. Dogs don't know it's bad for them..that is irresponsible for you to feed something to your animal that you know could have a negative outcome on their health.

The dog only wants chocolate because you are eating it. They don't know they will like it, unless you give it to them. So what it boils down to is you like giving it to them because you think they want it. If you never gave it to them they'd never know they liked the taste.

Would you give a 6 month old a Pepsi or beer..just because they grabbed for it and cried after you didn't give it to them?

If you wanna do destructive things..against the better judgement of others giving you reasonable explanations as to why you shouldn't...go right ahead..but don't lead others into the same way of thinking...without realizing that you are going to be responsible if something goes wrong and a bad outcome rolls around...you need to think about that. Do you want to be responsible for their fish dying..because you said it was ok and they fed their fish this crap and it dies a week later from it?. You don't "know" that it's ok....and to say it is..is kinda irresponsible.

IMHO it's better to be safe then sorry.

And no you shouldn’t feed bettas those meats..they are high in fat and oils...things bettas are not accustomed to eating..and it's not healthy for them. If you want to feed them meat...get some blood worms or brine shrimp or baby guppies or frozen beef heart.

Feeding Your Betta

Ok, so now you know what kind of homes we like and how we like out water. Now, what about our food?

Betta Splendens are carnivorous fish, which means we are meat eaters. This is one reason why those little Betta/Plant things being sold are a crock. We don't live off of plants, we live off of meat.

Most betta owners will probably not be into feeding live foods, but many do especially breeders. Live Bloodworms & Tubifex worms are the most common live food available. You can usually get them at you local fish store. We also enjoy live brine shrimp and live mosquito larvae. Some Fish Stores carry these. You can also buy Brine Shrimp eggs and hatch and grow your own. We will also eat the baby brine shrimp, but we would prefer the big ones. Some people may not agree with this, but many of our owners feed us live baby guppies. Those are excellent! Makes me hungry just thinking about all this live food!!

If you can't find live food in you area, you can often find frozen food. The same ones listed above can be frozen, later thawed and fed. There are also freeze-dried forms of these foods.

When it comes to dry foods, there are many choices. Most bettas will eat any of them, but you are very likely to get a finicky one. The favorites out there are Hikari Betta Bio-Gold. You get a very small amount of them in a package, so I recommend using Hikari Cichlid Gold-baby size. It is the same thing except you get a lot more for your money. HBH Betta Bites is also another popular choice. Flake foods are definitely not our first choice, but we will eat them if forced to.

Now, we have a great reputation for being piggy-fish. We will eat as much as you will give us, so feed us only what we need. If you notice us getting rather pudgy, cut us back a little bit. There is no set rule on how much to feed, it all depends on your betta.
http/www.siamsbestbettas.com/care.html

Frozen Beef Heart is available but I am not sure how appropriate it is for you and your Bettas. The other frozen foods can be thawed in water and provide bite sized pieces, while the Beef Heart would probably involve a lot of trimming and cutting down to size.
http/www.bettas-jimsonnier.com/foods.htm

Frozen beef heart


Description: Just as it sounds.
Packages: Comes in frozen cubes, flat frozen wafers (flat-packs). Also can be bought at butcher shops and some supermarkets.
Benefits: Very high in protein, can be mixed with other foods in blender. There are many beef heart recipes for fish online.
Drawbacks: Not all LFS sell it. If buying beef heart from a market there is some prep involved including fat trimming and sometimes de-veining.
http/www.healthybetta.com/articles/New%2...ettas/food.html

But this is all suggestion..I'm not saying you have to follow anyone's advice..but it's better to do your own research and weigh out the pro's and con's before jumping into something without looking into it at all, IMHO.

 

[Andie]

Giving dogs chocolate is extremely bad..I don't care how long you did it. 

Would you give a 6 month old a Pepsi or beer..just because they grabbed for it and cried after you didn't give it to them?

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Bravo. I'm not sure you even realise how accurate that analogy truly is. The 'toxins' in chocolate, caffeine and theobromine, belong to a class of chemicals called methylxanthines to which dogs are inordinately sensitive (they can't metabolise or excrete them even half as efficiently as humans). In fact, chocolate is actually about six times as hard on a dog's liver as it is on a human's because the dog's system is such that it reconverts the toxins into their original state several times over, in effect repeatedly poisoning itself before finally expelling it.

The reason I admired your Pepsi analogy is that the same principle is applied to infants and toddlers who cannot metabolise caffeine as quickly as adult humans can, and go through a not dissimilar process.

I would guess that the reason the Dobe survived this prolonged poisoning is due to its size and the type/small amounts of chocolate fed to it. A lethal dosage of milk chocolate (candy bars, Easter eggs) for a dog is about 2 oz/kg (of the dog's weight) but dark chocolate (eg baker's chocolate) is at a minimum ten times as lethal.

Not half as knowledgable on fish metabolism, I can only say that refined carbs like sugar, white flour and white rice swell in the stomach, and when you haven't got much stomach to start with, swelling can hardly be a good thing. Still, having seen in other posts how devoted Alix is to all his fish, I can't for a moment think that he had any idea of the potential trouble when he gave his fish this treat, and I'm sure that now he knows the risk involved, he'll reconsider

 

[SRC]

Yes, actually I do knwo that lol. That's why I used it. It fit directly into what I was trying to get across. Thanks for realizing it..sometimes people don't get my anologies and the meaning behind them.

 

[Bettabelieveit]

this is kind of off topic, but my 14 year old short hair pointer can eat as much chocolate as he wants, he can eat any amount of anything, I'm willing to bet he could eat poison and be fine If only you'd known the things he's eaten in his time, his digestive system is something else. he even had a stroke, and shook it off in a couple weeks. I odn't think science has an explanation for him

Ok, back to the regularly scheduled topic

 

[mlee0332]

^Haha. That's a tough dog you got there.

My dad, when he was a little boy, fed a fish he caught in the pond down from his house a slice of bread, and less than an hour later the fish was swollen to twice the size and it died. It was a brim I think...

 

[inflexion]

and i bet that no one on here smokes are drinks either

 

[SRC]

this is kind of off topic, but my 14 year old short hair pointer can eat as much chocolate as he wants

he even had a stroke

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The the first signs of chocolate poisoning are vomiting and diarrhea, increased urination and nausea. These can progress to cardiac arrhythmias and seizures.

It is our responsibility to keep our animals safe. Protect your dogs from their own sweet tooth. Occasional treats are okay, but keep your dog away from candy bars.

http/www.apogeecomgrp.com/drkevin/chocolate.html

It seems that chocolate makes the world go around and in almost every household you will find this delicious delicacy. Eating chocolate seems to be the great American pastime. It gives us a sense of well being and is a favorite comfort food. In over sixty percent of the homes that have this delicious treat available, you will also find a hungry and curious dog.

Unfortunately that combination does not mix well. So what can chocolate do to your dog, and why is it considered poison?


Dogs and puppies do not have the ability as we humans do to digest a simple chemical found in chocolate called "Theobromine". When theobromine is ingested by an animal it affects are horrific on the central nervous system and the cardiovascular system. This effect of the chemical has a very harsh effect on the animal’s body causing severe trauma and oftentimes death.

If you suspect your animal has eaten chocolate what signs do you look for? Toxic signs occur quickly so even if there is any question as to whether your animal has consumed chocolate or not, take the animal to the vet. Do not wait to see if the animal will be alright because any delay in treatment can be devastating. Your dog, if untreated, can quickly go into convulsions, have arrhythmia, stop breathing and go into a coma.

The vet will also administer anti-seizure medication because animals that have ingested chocolate have a ninety eight percent chance of having severe seizures. If your animal is having extreme symptoms or cardiac problems he will easily be able to give those cardiac medications through the IV. The stay after this treatment in an easy case is usually two days, although in more extreme instances the hospital stay for your animal could be weeks.

http/ut.essortment.com/dogschocolate_rcbr.htm

stroke
<neurology> A condition due to the lack of oxygen to the brain which may lead to reversible or irreversible paralysis.

I"m not going to say anything..because this subject really pisses me off..alot.

*edit* actually..I don't smoke and I drink moderatly. But I don't give it to my son..it's a personal choice...not mine to impose of something/someone else.

 

[Andie]

and i bet that no one on here smokes are drinks either

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I don't, actually I do live in the Maritimes, of course, so virtually everybody else here drinks like a fish, lol, but I don't. Personal choice. Just as it's everybody's personal choice what to feed their dogs, as well as their fish. We can get upset all we want, and we can tell them what their choices will do to their pets, but in the end it's not up to us I have faith that Alix will make the right choice, and I'm sure other people with furry/finned friends will want to do the same.

 

[Bettabelieveit]

SRC, I can tell ya that my dog didn't have a stroke due to eating chocolate, he rarely gets it, aside from when he steals it (which he loves to try) or finds some in the garbage (which is his favorite past time)

 

[CurlyQ]

That was very interesting guys! Gave me a much needed laugh!
I wonder how long such a debate could go on?