Back Into Tropical Fishkeeping

TomSaintJames

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Hello everybody, I decided two weeks ago to get back into keeping fish. This was spurred on by a colleague of mine donating me a 2ft aquarium complete with the kit. I had to replace the filter and heater as they were old and not very efficient, but other wise it's a free tank!

I first kept tropical fish when I was about 16 or so and remember how exciting it was, and when we moved to a bigger house I was allowed a 3ft aquarium in my room. But I went to college and so donated my fish and plants to our local agricultural college (if you're wondering what agriculture and tropical fish have in common, there is a method of growing crops, albeit small scale, using tropical fish and aquarium). But now i've finished my education and have settled down a bit more I can justify fish! And a snake too, but that'll have to wait till next year.

So, the tank. I've gone for a coral sand, black gravel and black sand substrate with some planty substrate mixed in too. The theme is a slow-water, heavily planted tank. Like this;

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Sorry for the rubbish photo quality, before I could figure out what settings to use on the camera the battery died, so I chose the best three. I didn't get any photo's of my fish so you'll have to wait for those :)

The left side was decided by my liking of the fern-like frondy stemmed plants, and the right-side needed to be quite heavy to cover the filter and heater etc.

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I basically saw plants I liked, bought them , and then tried to arrange it so it looked natural and pleasing. Then I bought some more a week later, rearranged them and was happy! The red lilly in the rear right corner will grow up to cover the filter and the thin grassy stiff and the really quick growing rosette-like stuff will cover the heater.

The fish I have so far are two golden honey gourami's and ten pygmy corydoras. I originally wanted natural coloured honey gourami's, but my chosen shop only had golden, and in the correct lighting they do look quite stunning! The pygmy cory's are very endearing, they flit and shoal all around the tank and constantly hoover up stuff from the substrate and plants.

Future fish plans? More, of course! I don't want to overstock the tank, or make it look too busy so I have several thoughts. The first was to have 5/7/9 lampeye killifish and the same number of clown killifish - then I read up about clown killi's and how shy etc they are, and I worried they'd get bullied by the honey gourami's, and with the lampeye's (i've had them before and think they are very fab little killi's) I think they would look much better in a tannin/blackwater style tank with dim lighting and a dark substrate. So what I think I'll do is have a shoal of threadfin rainbow's - i've never had them before, and they do look beautiful at my local fish shop, also I think they'll somehow 'work' in my tank. The other fish i'd like in here are peacock gobies, really stunning little fish.

Future tank plans? I need to sort out the lighting, the tank lid only lets light in through a letterbox shaped slit in the middle of the lid, so this only lights up the center of the tank, leaving the rear, sides and front dim. So what I would like to do is get a clip on style, overhead light unit and have an open topped tank with some small, pretty floating plants that will hopefully flower (need to find something of this nature as of yet).

Questions.
Has anyone had experience with this light unit?

Would threadfins be ok to add to the tank, say in two weeks time? (tank will be a month old then, I have been using instant bio filter stuff with water changes and initially, now the ammonia and nitrite levels have dropped off to low/normal).

Would the peacock gobies and little cories disagree? And would I need to provide some kind of cave/rocks etc for them to hide in, or would the plants be sufficient?

My next tank (when we move to a bigger place in the next two years, as we're just house sitting until a relative retires) will have to be a dim, blackwater style set up with lots of bogwood and java ferns with a soil based substrate. The centerpiece will be chocolate gouramis, clown and lampeye killies. With loads of moss balls and ferny like plants :)

Anyone have a suggestion of a nice, not too large, flowering floating plant?

Thanks, comments and advice gratefully received :good:
 
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Thanks! Gong to get some more fish today, probably a pair of peacock gobies. Another job today is to go snail hunting, they breed and grow so darn quickly...

I found another camera battery too, also with limited life (need to find that charger...) but managed to get a few non blurry shots of the tank and my honey's.

Classic gourami behaviour, male chasing female. Although this female does give back the abuse occasionally.
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Tried with flash on.
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Non blurry tank shot! Need to clean the glass too.
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I couldn't get a shot of my cories, they're quite shy and have spent most of today in the right hand rear of the tank cleaning the plants and gravel there.

I decided to go with the above light unit, and will get some amazon frogbit and salvinia natans (floating watermoss) too, hopefully this will give the fish some more confidence and dim the lighting a bit to show off the colours of the fish.

Should get my new peacock gobies in the next two hours or so :)
 
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New inmates are successfully interred. Ended up with two peacock gobies, almost an inch long and not yet coloured up, suspect both are females but one is slightly more colourful so who knows! Don't mind either way as I don't to breed from them.

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Also when I first was after my pygmy cories, the LFS had to order them in for me, I wanted 11 and they ordered 15, so i ended up getting the other 4 today. Now have 14 pygmies (lost one the day after getting them a few weeks ago) still think they're fab little fish.

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Nearly there with this tank, just have to sort out the lighting, floating plants and have patience to allow all the plants to grow up and look beautiful, generally i'm not very good at being patient, as my partner frequently tells me... In a fishy sense, not sure whether to go with lampeye's or threadfin rainbows to finish it off. I've had lampeye's before and really liked them, but them threadfin's do look stunning... Anybody had experience with threadfin's? I'd probably get 5 or 6 at a m/f ratio of 2:3.
 
Small update time! Got some new recruits, 7 Nannostomus beckfordii, great fish, really showy and quirky. Also removed the tall hairgrass as the snails were using it as a spawning area, also with the old light not being very bright they all went brown and dead looking, so replaced them with a red bacopa like stemmed plant, also put some browny green rosette-leaved stuff in-front of the heater, it's like the green rosette-stuff i've already got, but thinner. New light arrived a while ago, been fine so far but is bloody bright! Not sold on the blue LED's either but we'll see. Will get some piccies tomorrow.

Got some plans too, the ferny plants on the left of the tank are covered in thread and brown algae, so i'm thinking of replacing them with an amazon sword, had one in my last tank and it got rather large, but was very nice looking. Waiting for my order of floating plants to come in (hopefully tuesday), should give the pencils a bit more confidence.

Saw some lovely little eyespot rasbora's in my local this week, I think i'm near the stock limit for my tank but would love a few of these, my tank just seems empty at the top, as the pencils don't move about much, they do perk up in the evening/night though. I can't remember how to work out the stock limits, anyone know? I have 2 honey gourami's, 14 pygmy cories, 7 beckfords pencils and 2 peacock gobies and the tank is a 2ft x 1ft x 1ft.

Ooh, almost forgot, bought some assasin snails! Haven't seen them for over a week, as they seem to bury themselves but I swear the amount of little snails about has decreased, there are some whopping golden ones now, some must be half an inch wide.
 
Very nice. Have you considered water sprite/water wisteria as a replacement for the fern? Watch out for those peacocks; they are quite the jumpers.
 
I haven't, but with my new light I think that's a fab suggestion! Was toying with the idea of some bogwood and java ferns too, as I want to keep the short grasses under the ferns. Haven't had any problems with the gobies yet, they're quite placid and really look at stuff, as if they're thinking whether to eat it or not!
 
Tank update:
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The ferns on the left will have to go, and i'm not happy with the red bushy stemmed plants so these may also go, i'm going to get more long stemmed, surface leaved plants over some bogwood on the left (replacing ferns) but will keep the little grasses here. Not sure what to do about the red plants, might replace them with vallisneria or similar. Would quite like some tannins in the water too.

Got a problem with algae, the thread stuff is growing on and through all my plants - it's ugly, the fish seem to avoid it and it blocks the light to the plants so they go brown and die... How can I stop this algae?

Algae nastyness.
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New pencilfish (beckfordii), really cool little fish!
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Goby close-up, isn't he beautiful?
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Assassin snails, lazy buggers really
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Male honey, pretty boy.
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Got some frogbit, but would like much more. Started with one single little plant a week or two ago.
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I have some thoughts for algae control, my local fish shop has some long stemmed plants with leaves that sit on the waters surface, so i've ordered some of those, i've also ordered some amazon frogbit (ordered more assassin snails too, cos they're cool and do reduce the snail population!). So hopefully this'll help with algae...
 
Tank update on it's way. FIsh still present and correct, shrimp didn't last long but they were freebies anyway. I've been overrun with floating plants! Took out a chinese takeaway plastic tubs worth and donated it to my local fish shop, trimmed the vallis and skinny grass plant as they were contorted die to soo much growth. I can never seem to get the substrate clean, if it wasn't a major faff i'd whip the lot out and replace with a black sand/gravel mix. t'll have to stay now though, in future I shall know not to go for crushed coral as a tropical substrate!

Pictures to follow :)
 
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Over the last few weeks i've noticed the gourmi's have developed these black spots, they started off fairly small, it's difficult to see, but they don't look like a bug or lice type of thing, the female has a spot on one of her tail fin rays too. Is it just colouration do we think? Or something more sinister?
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I think I need to trim the no-so-little grasses that have carpeted the floor, and I want to bring the two green and red big leaved plants forward, the one in the middle i'll put a piece of bogwood behind (looks like a tree trunk) and I have a spindly, root like piece to have the base behind the left one, and the spindle projecting onto the middle. Think it needs something in the mid foreground on the left.
 
Not updated for quite a while, but lots has happened since December! I had a fairly major plant re-jigg, and plan to tidy it up again today, but this is how things look today. I've not done nay maintenance for a couple of weeks other than water changes, and i've just spotted how dirty the glass is!
 

 
The grassy plants on the LHS have gone nuts in the last two weeks, it's been very warm here in the UK, especially in the south where I am, and the aquarium has been about 27 or so degrees with no assistance from the heater (turned it off). The lilly on the RHS has also really taken off, i'm going to trim a few of the messy and in the way leaves later. The vallis and other skinnier leaved grasses on the LHS have crept forward, leaving an inch or two of empty space behind them, so i'll be moving them back to just infront of the glass, and the ones at the front on the left are going to the RHS back to hide the bit of heater you can see. Not sure what I would like to go at the front left corner, something pretty, small and not grass like. The shade created by the lilly has bumped off the fine grass clumps that were at the right foreground, so I was thinking of creating a little cave for the peacock gobies here, and getting some dried leaves for this area to give a tannin coloured water and hiding places.
 

 
Just a picture of my rather colourful (and not very golden) golden pencils. Fish wise, I donated my honey gouramis to a friend of mine who wanted a pair; still have the golden pencils (7 of) still have all the pygmy cories and sadly only the female peacock goby, i'd heard they were jumpers, but never experienced this until we had friends round for dinner, and their little girl was absent from the lounge for a bit, I found her banging on the tank with a spoon! Needless to say I was not impressed, especially when I found both gobies on the floor, with three pencil fish, and to top it all off - the male goby had been trodden on by said little girl. All the other fish survived, but not the male goby, he was quite squashed - as any fish would be if trodden on by a 6 year old.
 
What I want to do next is sort all the romping plants out, switch to an external filter, and I need a small shoal of little tiny fish to finish off the tank. I'm thinking something surface dwelling, and tiny - like mosquito rasbora (Boraras sp), lampeye killifish or a small species of pencilfish (favourite so far are brown, three lined or barred). What do you guys think?
 

Lol, I still don't seem able to take even a half decent picture...
 

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